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Lithp
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I believe it is indeed a play and they are indeed actors, if they happen to die when they are not supposed to, they are brought back to fulfill their role.

I see, that's actually an interesting idea. Do you have any theories on what the end goal of the play is, if anything?

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Alex's death to me is the equivalent of an extra doing something he is not supposed to during the play, and since he is not important to the overall plot, he gets inmediately taken out as soon as he screws up

What I was saying is that Alex apparently reappeared recently, & I believe also cryptically responded to an E-mail or something. This would suggest he is part of the "Cycle," but there's as of yet no evidence of him being involved in the Fairmount gang.

Oh yeah, I guess Jeff also showed up in the recent Tribe Twelve crossover. "Recent."

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Either way, he is doing something he is not supposed to and he says that he and his family are "holding the front", meaning that they are indeed trying to kill him and his family.

I thought his family was already dead, or are we talking about the Hybrids?

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:34 pm

Ristar
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Lithp wrote:

I see, that's actually an interesting idea. Do you have any theories on what the end goal of the play is, if anything?

Well, in the book (The book witht he story of Everyman) that they found a long time ago, it says that every eventually dies and the cycle repeats due to Everyman (Which at this point is safe to asume that Vinny is playing this role) failing to do what he is supposed to, dying and then the cycle (The entire play) repeating itself again

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He is also alive in Next (Where HABIT starts killing everyone), but he appears to be a puppet from the Slenderman (Which is why i think that Slenderman is the one who brings them back). I believe he is just a tool working for the Slenderman in case he needs him.

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Oh yeah, I guess Jeff also showed up in the recent Tribe Twelve crossover. "Recent."

I think it was in that bridge episode, and i also remember that was after he died and that he was also wearing the same clothes he wore during the last hidden video (The candleverse one). Made me think that he is just in hell (Since he was running away from HABIT) while waiting for the cycle to repeat itself again.

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I thought his family was already dead, or are we talking about the Hybrids?

Well they seem to be alive in the pocket dimension because Corenthal mentions his wife and his other adopted daughter (Or actual daughter i can't remember) are alive and helping him to hold the front.

I'm of course talking about the members of the Corenthal family outside the Hybrids[/quote]

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:45 am

Ataxis
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Ristar wrote:

Lithp wrote:

How has the iteration theory been "proven" in any way? We know Corenthal is hiding out in a "sanctuary" that's a presumed pocket dimension, but not if it's in some "candleverse of universal avatars." We know characters seem to come back after fatal events unharmed, but there doesn't seem to be any pattern to it, they don't come back in the same state every time.

The only thing that really has a case for it is the "sub theory," & even that has problems. Why has Steph not "reiterated"? Since when is Alex part of this, considering he's not referenced at all in the Corenthal papers?

Also, a lot of those events aren't markedly different from other Slender-series where protagonists experience temporal displacement, so what makes people think this is anything but Slenderman or HABIT or whatever reviving the ones he's not done with, but letting the others die?

Finally, The Property is cited as evidence of a recursive timeline, but recently Vinny implied a more earthly explanation, that somehow or or another it's just "all one house." This throws into question whether or not any of the events are even what they seem, including the deaths. If they're all just actors without realizing this, who's to say this isn't going to go Full Big O on us & say, "They don't exist, they never did"?[/url]

I believe it is indeed a play and they are indeed actors, if they happen to die when they are not supposed to, they are brought back to fulfill their role.

Characters like Steph and Jeff have already done what they were supposed to do, so they are not brought back into the play anymore.

Alex's death to me is the equivalent of an extra doing something he is not supposed to during the play, and since he is not important to the overall plot, he gets inmediately taken out as soon as he screws up

Corenthal i can't really tell to be honest, i think he either did something on this iteration that let him escape the play (The Pocket Dimension) or he is just delaying the inevitable (Sort of how the last hidden video references Corenthal dying after putting a bullet into HABIT). Either way, he is doing something he is not supposed to and he says that he and his family are "holding the front", meaning that they are indeed trying to kill him and his family.

There are many times where Slenderman seems to keep people alive or bring them back (I'm not sure if Slenderman is actually the one bringing them back or its just the universe that works that way) until they do what they are supposed to, after that they finally die.

That's pretty much where i'm coming from when i say the Iteration Theory is true, every character in EMH has a role to fulfill, and when they are done, they get gutted, and if they die without doing what they are supposed to, they are brought back. After the play is over, they are all brought back to life so they can do it all over again

Something interesting I've thought: When Corenthal says that he's "holding the front" He specifically mentions Vinnie's sister. So, does this mean Vinnie's biological sister, who neither Evan nor Vin can remember clearly, and may have been an erased fiction, or is Corenthal referring to the person he sees as Vinnie's sister, which is Steph?

And as for what I think the ending is, I think this could go one of three ways. The cycle is going to repeat, that's almost certain. From there, you have three paths.

A) Nothing is accomplished. The cycle repeats.
B) Something was accomplished, and the next cycle will go right.
C) HABIT has his little war, and either he or Slenderman die, whatever effect this has on the cycle.

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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:48 am

Cyan507
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evanx275h wrote:

Yeah, that would do it for me. Thanks unFiction. You were cool.

when was Unfiction cool, when everyone was in denial and convinced themselves their series wasn't dying?

Also one thing I'd like to address is the Slenderman and Welcome to the Ark videos the creators made, since Jeff is now dead can we settle that the events of said videos either never took place or happened in the Candleverse?

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:39 am

Lithp
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That is distressingly relevant.

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Makes sense.

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I don't remember, were there any time shenanigans going on in that one?

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I may have to watch that video again, or at least look up the information on the Wiki, because none of this is ringing a bell.

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I thought it was Steph...Vinny had a sister?

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when was Unfiction cool, when everyone was in denial and convinced themselves their series wasn't dying?

You never thought Unfiction was cool? Really?

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Also one thing I'd like to address is the Slenderman and Welcome to the Ark videos the creators made, since Jeff is now dead can we settle that the events of said videos either never took place or happened in the Candleverse?

I honestly never paid that much attention to them, since their canonicity was contested & they didn't seem to make much sense to me, so I don't know if I can answer that.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:35 pm

Cyan507
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You never thought Unfiction was cool? Really?

bruh, too savage.

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I honestly never paid that much attention to them, since their canonicity was contested & they didn't seem to make much sense to me, so I don't know if I can answer that.

fair enough, I see you talking with Ristar and Ataxis about the Corethal letters and stuff but I personally wouldn't even bother reading the lore material as it's likely be been contradicted by video events at this stage.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:06 pm

Ataxis
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Cyan507 wrote:

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You never thought Unfiction was cool? Really?

bruh, too savage.

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I honestly never paid that much attention to them, since their canonicity was contested & they didn't seem to make much sense to me, so I don't know if I can answer that.

Not the letters. When Vinnie meets Corenthal in his little pocket dimension, Corenthal mentions that Vin's sister is helping him hold the line against the monsters, and that sister is pretty clearly Steph. That line about Vinnie's sister was a fault of mine, by the way. Evan was the one who had a sister.

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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:39 pm

Cyan507
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Ataxis wrote:

Cyan507 wrote:

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You never thought Unfiction was cool? Really?

bruh, too savage.

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I honestly never paid that much attention to them, since their canonicity was contested & they didn't seem to make much sense to me, so I don't know if I can answer that.

I was unsure about that too actually, like Evan had a sister too that we never got a name for.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:21 pm

Lithp
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bruh, too savage.

No, I was asking a serious question.

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The extra-video lore always really interested me for some reason, & the Fairmount letters do really contradict with the main story, but I guess that's intentional. Evan references at one point that the timeline is impossible, which is probably how the Iteration Theory really got started. The only thing I sort of feel contradicts the lore but wasn't planned out is that if Slenderman is no longer helping HABIT, he has way more powers than was indicated in the Canyouseethewords post about him.

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That line about Vinnie's sister was a fault of mine, by the way. Evan was the one who had a sister.

Okay, that I remember. I don't remember anything about her, but I remember it being said somewhere that Evan had a sister.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:24 pm

Ataxis
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Lithp wrote:

Okay, that I remember. I don't remember anything about her, but I remember it being said somewhere that Evan had a sister.

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I was unsure about that too actually, like Evan had a sister too that we never got a name for.

Evan mentioned his sister when he and Vinnie were discussing their family. This was the same conversation where they discussed The House, which led to the two realizing that, as Vinnie puts it, they are fiction.

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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:45 pm

SilentMedusa
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I don't really have anything to add here, but when Corenthal says to Vinny "your brother and sister and I are holding the fort" it seemed clear to me he was referring to Jeff and Steph.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:28 pm

Ataxis
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SilentMedusa wrote:

I don't really have anything to add here, but when Corenthal says to Vinny "your brother and sister and I are holding the fort" it seemed clear to me he was referring to Jeff and Steph.

Yeah, pretty much.

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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:45 pm

Lithp
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SilentMedusa wrote:

I don't really have anything to add here, but when Corenthal says to Vinny "your brother and sister and I are holding the fort" it seemed clear to me he was referring to Jeff and Steph.

Had Jeff already been killed off by that point? I thought that happened later.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:19 pm

SilentMedusa
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No, Vinny and Evan were the only Hybrids left by the time "The Property" took place.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:23 am

Ristar
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Lithp wrote:

SilentMedusa wrote:

I don't really have anything to add here, but when Corenthal says to Vinny "your brother and sister and I are holding the fort" it seemed clear to me he was referring to Jeff and Steph.

Had Jeff already been killed off by that point? I thought that happened later.

There is another sister to the Hybrids, and i'm not talking about Steph. I can't quite exactly remember her name at this moment but i do remember she is mentioned in the documents before Corenthal asks his wife to gather some shit for a ritual to escape to that pocket dimension

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:58 am

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