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[bryanflurry]

[Brauley1]

I don't think that analysis of the history of the Swamp Pop website is correct.
I was doing some fact-checking, using the same website that Virtuallyquinn used and the URL for the shopify store.

The Wayback Machine defaults to the nearest snapshot of a website if you choose a month in which there is no snapshot. So if I choose November 2015 for the Swamp Pop store it defaults to the January 17th 2016 snapshot, complete with the changes to do with 10CL, because the last snapshot in 2015 was done in August and the January snapshot is the most recent one.

Following the snapshots from the main Swamp Pop website, not the shop, we see that it does have a snapshot from November 2015. However, clicking the "Buy Online!" link on that snapshot just takes us to the closest snapshot of the shopify site to November 2015 which is....
You guessed it, January 17th 2016.

So there is no proof that the Swamp Pop shop was updated with relevant information prior to the trailer release.

Anyway, if it is a part of an ARG why is it just rehashing things from the trailer and not providing us with even the smallest tidbit of new info?

EDIT: It is possible for edits to websites to be made between snapshots. I'm not outright saying that the changes weren't made in November, I'm just saying that it's difficult to prove.

[Fluffyfjord]

[VirtuallyQuinn]

[VirtuallyQuinn]

Well, except to add this - found on reddit just now...

https://imgur.com/J17IpCs

LOLOL

[Koala Bro]

[Brauley1]

[VirtuallyQuinn]

Yes you can. Click the date and click the link.

[Brauley1]

Are you sure you're not looking at the Wayback page for the main Swamp Pop website? Because that has a snapshot and link for the 10th. But on the calendar for the Swamp Pop Shopify store the 10 in the January is just plain text, there is no link there, indicating no snapshot for that date.

[VirtuallyQuinn]

Well I got screen caps of everything I clicked on.

It doesn't matter if it was September or October or June or December.

The point, again, is that the changes were done before January - the only 2 weeks of this month this year. The trailer was out 2 days ago. Their site changes to reflect the faux SHELTER SUPPLIES they're out of stock on*** big in your face clue*** BEFORE the trailer was released.

Look at it again.

Let's say Swamp Pop - as real - is OOG and they got their product in the movie. As far as they'd know, the drink is in a movie called Valencia. So we get Bad Robot on the scene and suddenly they have NDAs to honor. Cool. Once the screening part happens, they no longer seem to be under an NDA, and still presume this movie is called Valencia. MEW is talking about it interviews, other articles are out about the movie.

Why then wouldn't Swamp Pop be free to bust out and acknowledge to their own customer base their product is going to be in a JJA movie called Valencia?

Why, if they knew this movie was called Valencia - OOG for real - would they even remotely think to add a fake product for a 15 year shelter supply and then put up a Cloverfield related tag line? Why would they put the price on their OOG website where real customers who were customers before the movie would go only to be misled?

And why, exactly, would they be out of stock on shelter supplies at all when they NEVER in the entire history of their website, store, or social media pages ever advertised they whipped up a doomsday package for preppers? Why would the be sold out of something they never offered to begin with? How would it be sold out when it was never in the store prior to November?

Where are the reviews of people who bought all these shelter supplies? Where are the pissers and moaners complaining on facebook they didn't get all 5034 thousand bottles or they got grape instead of guava?

The fact ONLY cloverfans know that shelter package is not real and they are not acknowledging it OOG to their actual customers means clearly that it's supposed to be IG for cloverfans, tied to this movie and the drink four line is our big in your face clue that this is real, it's really happening, there's more coming, it is IG, and it is the "game" - or, at absolute least, letting cloverfans know "the game is afoot".

Would a legitimate company put up a link to fake sold out products and risk alienating their actual real customers?

Why wouldn't they, upon being informed the name had been changed to 10CL, go ahead and announce it to their own real base? Would any of their demographic even be Cloverfield fans? How would they know unless they acknowledged it to them directly in the 2 year span leading to the release?

If it's OOG they'd behave appropriately and realistically in an OOG fashion, even if they just "nodded" to cloverfans. What would make them think any clover fan would bother ending up on their site at all, let alone clicking the buy link to get soda when their actual focus is ARG and Cloverfield and characters and clues? What would a real soft drink have to do with anything beyond OOG product placement that would inspire anybody to look to begin with?

Nothing.

They would have no way - as OOG - to know to anticipate cloverfan traffic.


The fact they did and changed things on the dl months in advance and never acknowledged it is what proves it's IG, that they were informed that cloverfans will eventually find their site, and if there is a viral game attached, it's unlikely they'd have been allowed to inject their own "nod" either way that led nowhere. If they'd not put those particular clues on the site it would've been sailed over as irrelevant product placement.

The fact the "nods" and product placement is there is NOT the reason people ordered the soda. The fact it's IG at all and part of the Cloverfield universe is what inspired people to order their drinks.

This was the start. Something is coming!

[Fluffyfjord]

If there is one, I expect the ARG to start up in a few days, or even a week.

[sp103]

Alright,
My take on this is this not a cloverfield
Sequel but uses the "monster" idea as
Outlined on the poster.

This is a usage of the cloverfield name and its
Telling us straight to our faces "monsters
Come in many forms" indicating a new or different
Monster is involved.
That appears to be John Goodman holding
People in captivity in an underground bunker
Staring the upstairs world is inhabitable.

This sucks to say but I don't expect any mr grumpy pants or offsprings to
Be showing up here.

[MrDannyO]

[Pixiestix]

Hey guys, small request - stop super-nesting. There is no need to quote half a page of dialog from 8 different posts. It clutters things up. Thanks

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[Clovie4796]

3-11-16.com takes you to this.