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[Salo]

[AntaresMHD]

[Salo]

[ljm]

[kosmopol]

Agree. SP haven't published anything that would mean more than we knew at the moment. They have read fans hypothesis and reused the popular 10CfLn topoi in their marketing. I mean, why not? 4813 is not copyrighted by BR, neither Eiffel Tower puzzle tiles do. It was smart and they've got attention. Abs we've got our fun (and haven't given up our desire for an ARG). Like we say in Germany (even if I dislike this goofy idiom) a win-win situation.

If it was a product placement, than a friendly one. I doubt SP as a just another nice local company, could be used as a sponsor for a movie, which hit the Super Bowl. Perhaps just a friendship, relativities, tribute or something. I wonder if they will appear in the credit roll, I suppose they will.

[CynAnne]

[danteIL]

Irritation time:

I'm annoyed by the dead ends in this game. We've had:


Trailer --> Swamp Pop --> Puzzle pieces --> Eiffel Tower --X (and yes i know this probably isn't anything official)

Trailer flashes --> Numbers --> Coordinates/Dead Drop --> Audiofile --X

Tagruato --> Radioman70 --> FaPT --> Megan chat --> Survival Sim --> DeadDrop/Phone --X


We've learned that Howard worked for Navy/involved with satellites/learned something crazy about Soviets/is paranoid/built 2 bunkers.

We've learned that Megan is in Chicago/is artsy/isn't communicating with Howard


And that's about it.

[Melodyman]

Agree. They have gone through a lot of trouble to set up this thing with planted ammo boxes and phone bags plus the rest of the sites and survival game design etc only to have them do nothing.. With one week left it doesnt leave alot of time to tie these things together and actually build towards a payoff of some sort.. Hopefully they have planned a 'big finish' for us but I just get this gut feeling that they have kinda abandoned their original idea, perhaps due to the unsportsman-like behavior of some and we are getting the truncated version now. This game should have been action packed given the time contraints yet the pace is so slow that there cant be too much more left in the tank.. IMHO of course... Hope i'm wrong!

[reiker]

I agree, way too many dead ends. The puzzle pieces from Swamp Pop should have led to something. The MRE/Ammo box drop should have led to something. The cell phone drop should have led to something.

I really enjoyed the ARG at first but in retrospection it's a total mess. Where's the community interaction? Where's the pay off? Every single time the community solves or completes something, the trail goes cold and a completely new one starts.

There's no satisfaction for the players, really. They could have just put all of this stuff on a website and not have bothered with player interaction since the player interaction has been pretty pointless.

[dmax]

Dead ends

[danteIL]

Re: Dead ends

[gimlet]

If you think we haven't looked closely enough at the mispellings, you haven't been paying attention. We discussed it LOTS, especially early on in the locked thread.

But it never led anywhere.

As we've seen in Bad Robot ARGs the puzzles and solutions tend to be pretty obvious. More than that, if we miss something there tends to be a channel out there, somewhere, that nudges us in the right direction - like the official Instagram posts have at every step of the way.

Which brings me to point number two: it's much easier to solve a puzzle if you know who made the puzzle. I understand completely if you personally want to stay "In Game" at all times for a fuller imersion. But that's not my thing, or a lot of others it seems. That's why this thread is "Meta." It says it right in the title. If you don't want meta, don't come here. Some of us want to discuss the puzzle makers because not only do we enjoy it, but it helps us gain a fuller understanding of this ARG.

More than that, if you really think there's something we missed in the mispellings on FAPT there is a thread you can post on yourself with all your thoughts. We're not just going to work on whatever you think we should, if you're interested you need to lead by example and start doing it yourself.

[Pixiestix]

Dmax - I thought you left us. Welcome back. People needed a place to vent frustrations - something we used to do in MIRC, something I've certainly heard you do in our many years gaming together {granted, not nearly as often as I have}. We aren't in MIRC, so we vent here. That said, people haven't given up just to whine and bitch here... We are still working on stuff, we just want a safe space to opine while we do so.

[Melodyman]

What we have here is a bunch of folks trying to follow and solve the meaning behind clues we havent been given..

[Pixiestix]

Gimlet - I have strong issues about The Curtain. I much prefer an Iron Curtain. I think there has been a ton of gaming conjecture based on the meta in this game, and none of it has aided in anything - they haven't done anything patterned any differently than any other ARG out there. Rather the opposide {Example: i see you and Kosmo grasping at straws to try to put anything and everyone who was ever connected with JJ or BR, and then some who are just genre related, somehow into the game as a reference.} I miss the days when we didn't know who was behind games.
For me however, the only real effect is... I find very often, as time goes by and I personally know more and more PMs, it makes it harder for me {the Angry Midget, Queen of the Complainers} to complain.