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[hinoai]

But...

[Salo]

[Pixiestix]

LOL you guys are lucky Konamouse hasn't seen this yet... She gets so annoyed at misused spoiler tags.

[catherwood]

[AntaresMHD]

[hinoai]

I was just erring on the side of caution so as not to be a dick that said the wrong thing.

And my response to Salo is that Tagruato was responsible for Clovie, and here we are seeing other things that they're doing that are bad, in relation to them witnessing what happened on the audio file and not turning that in to the government.

Slusho's appearance in other shows/movies is just an easter egg/nod to JJ. It's not really the same.

[danteIL]

god I wish I could just see the movie already so I can go back on the Internet.

[dmax]

catherwoo and I are thinking the same: I was expecting an ARG that was pointed to by the movie, but not something that required the movie in some way - and vice versa. I shouldn't need the movie to enjoy the ARG, and I shouldn't need the ARG to enjoy the movie.

The great-granddaddy of this, The Beast, was absolutely independent of the movie AI - although AI gave you the clues by which to know of its existence. Seeing AI would've meant I would still know nothing about the ARG, and vice versa.

So - if discussing the movie here ruins the ARG experience, what's up with that?
I don't want movie spoilers, because I'm not 13 years old - I want to participate in the emotional rollercoaster as it happens. But, keeping movie talk in one forum, we should have all the rest of the 10CL game forum unspoiled. That's not happening.

Again, I think the ARG pond is deeper than we've discovered. We only think it's shallow.

[MissingTeddyHanssen]

[mzsooze]

My "criticism, complaint, and comment" about the ARG itself....

For me, personally, it did not enhance the movie viewing experience that much. I did chuckle at a couple of things, but as a whole it really did nothing to improve the plot or answer any questions that I had.

In fact, I left with even more questions just like Cloverfield.

Oh well, such is life. I did manage to score one of those sweet swag bags that Paramount was giving out. A nice teenage boy gave me one of his extra blue tickets (I think people received them for telling Paramount what they thought of the movie.) so that I could get one.

[steady]

[gimlet]

I completely agree. We now have a much better understanding of Howard, a pathos for his character, & his family's tragedy, that the rest of the audiance simply won't have going in. I think it's going to be a totally different movie for us because it sounds like everyone else starts off the movie thinking he's just "the creepy dude" - a 2 dimensional villain. We are going to have have the benefit of the doubt for his motivations baked in to our experiences in this arg. It's going to be a fuller, more complex experience for us.

It's like the difference between picking up a sandwich from a Michelin starred restaurant, and having the tasting menu with wine pairings. Both are going to be great experiences, but one is going to be so much deeper.

It frustrates me that some can't see that, but then again just like with food, some people have different tastes. Some people don't care for food at all, and simply eat to live. I happen think that they are missing out on the full spectrum of the human expereince, but that's my prejudice.

So too here. I think narrative is one of the most powerful tools we have as human beings, and complex, compelling narratives deepen our understanding of ourselves... But some people just like puzzles. So do I! And this ARG was admitedly sorely missing them.

Others still may have wished for more of the technical backstory of this world. To be honest I just don't care, I have the capacity to suspend my belief, but some people do, deeply, hence things like all the books of schematics of Star Trek tech. Some just really like getting fully immersed in the technical minutia, and more power to them.

But these are all matters of taste.

Might I suggest that if you don't care for pathos and insight and instead prefer minutia and puzzles, that Bad Robot ARGs may just not be for you?

[steady]

And this also falls in line with the Cloverfield viral campaign. We would see a Japanese oil tanker damaged, and different events leading up to the film.

[catherwood]

[mzsooze]