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docwho2100
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So does the skyppe video get us to right before the medical tent videos we saw earlier? And the last journal - is he going to go see Arkady? WHat is he going to do?

And that song - what is the song... soooo many questions Smile

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SimpinaLindale
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new updates

Arkady posted a long message about his experience.
And a list of numbers :

110 156 159 149 160 140 070

Walker also gave more information about what happened to him in the shell

So I'm pretty sure that these numbers are linked to Johannes Kepler's Harmony Of The Worlds (Harmonices Mundi) where he stated in chapter 3 that Cosmology (planets motion), numbers and music theory are linked.
He gave a different music scale to each planet and all of them rotating around the sun creates a "celestial" music.

One track on Voyager golden record : Laurie Spiegel's "Music of the Spheres" is an interpretation of that theory

So I think the 2 lists of numbers have a link to planets, and music, just like in Kepler theory, where only 7 planets where known to him :
Saturn Jupiter Mars Earth Venus Mercury Moon, and Laurie Spiegel only used the musical scales of these 7 planets on the Voyager record.

Walker numbers (004 001 006 002 003 005 007) are certainly these 7 planets, but I don't know in which order (Geocentric, heliocentric... ?)

Arkady numbers have something to do with their distance perhaps, or sound frequency...

more info :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonices_Mundi
http://flyingsinger.blogspot.fr/2006/12/real-music-of-spheres.html
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docwho2100
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Great thoughts - they do connect the pieces so far - Does the pattern Arkady wrote the numbers in mean anything? They seem to cross at odd places...

I am also intrigued by A soul nobody understands - seele and niemand wird verstehn.

Also - dropboc comments - the one photo it mentions - Post
Arkady Sivakov will be notified
. So they are being thorough with who is posting in the dropbox...

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danteIL
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Thanks for keeping up on this.. I've been distracted by other things recently and haven't been able to follow as closely. I have no new ideas for what to do with these numbers. It can't be a coincidence that both Walker's and Arkady's numbers come in sets of 7:

Quote:
004 001 006 002 003 005 007
Quote:
110 156 159 149 160 140 070



Random thought- There are 7 notes in the Western music scale: A B C D E F G
I'm not sure why an alien intelligence would necessarily use the Western scale though.

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SimpinaLindale
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new updates : Conversation + video of Dr Walker first session.

The words Walker and Sivakov were whispering after they collapsed point to Dr Louise Banks :

Arkady german words are from the song "Louise" from a german rock band named Eisblume :
"In seiner Seele, Niemand wird verstehn,"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I6o7yoPa74

The words Dr Walker whispered are from the song "Louise" by Maurice Chevalier
"BIRDS in the TREES seem to TWITTER "Louise."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtGSE90RycI

It looks like the Heptapods want to get in touch with Dr Louise Banks !

From the new video, Dr Walker played a tune I transcribed below, but I don't know what it is and there's no "B flat", as Arjun said....
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danteIL
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SimpinaLindale wrote:

"BIRDS in the TREES seem to TWITTER "Louise."


Grasping at straws: Is this a pointer to something on Twitter?

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SimpinaLindale
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danteIL wrote:
SimpinaLindale wrote:

"BIRDS in the TREES seem to TWITTER "Louise."


Grasping at straws: Is this a pointer to something on Twitter?


Yes, seems strange that only A.Sivakov have a twitter account (and an academic account) in this ARG.
But, for now, I found nothing for Louise Banks or Aaron Walker ... Sad

There's a "Louise" @birds_in_trees twitter account, but it's not her, sadly

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4pollo
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Found another linguist using the coordinates: (update 20161107: he's gone now)

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
http://numl.academia.edu/GogalBukhari

Gogal Bukhari
National University of Modern Languages, Exolinguistics, Post-Doc | Exolinguistics
28.666585, 70.658419
gogalbukhariSPLATyahoo.com


https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:CWG0roMdk4wJ:https://about.me/gogalbukhari

GOGAL BUKHARI
Applied Linguistics Ph.D. and Consultant in Islamabad, Pakistan
Location: 28.666585, 70.658419
#languages #research #consulting
EDUCATION
National University of Modern Languages


Also

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
in the audio of the video at http://www.whyaretheyhere.com/ there seems to be a continuous signal at 1111Hz, which sounds a little bit like SSTV. It would be pretty hard to isolate though, and it sounds like it is the same thing over and over.


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docwho2100
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SimpinaLindale wrote:
danteIL wrote:
SimpinaLindale wrote:

"BIRDS in the TREES seem to TWITTER "Louise."


Grasping at straws: Is this a pointer to something on Twitter?


Yes, seems strange that only A.Sivakov have a twitter account (and an academic account) in this ARG.
But, for now, I found nothing for Louise Banks or Aaron Walker ... Sad

There's a "Louise" @birds_in_trees twitter account, but it's not her, sadly


Did anyone receive a follow approval from Arkady or any contact via any of the social media accounts other than email (I did try sending a message both places).

And I still wonder if there is some hidden pattern to the image1 (1).JPG Arkady shared

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Jung
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New Skype video by Dr. Walker (5) uploaded 1 hour ago. There's is a background sound (some kind of alarm) but it's very difficult for me to understand what he says related to it.

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SimpinaLindale
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The academia file for Gogal Bukhari, linguist from Pakistan has been removed... it was a great finding though

There's a new linguist from China mentioned in the last "snap" posted :
Dr Hon Fenfang , and she has her academia file too :
https://cass.academia.edu/FenfangHon

Indeed, it's very difficult to understand what Aaron Walker says in the last video.
Quote:

Aaron Walker, speaking to an unknown site interlocutor :

- and no indication as to why they chose that site ?
- no, not that we can dicern now, but there has to be
*sirens*
- wow that sounds like my cue
- (what's a ?) ( leaking, liquid ?) (sound, sun, son ?)
- Montana out
- (Mont?) unlock the secret of the universe.


What do you hear in the 3 last sentences ?

No new idea concerning the 2 numbers. but :
- The 2 series are linked
- 7 is important : 7 music notes, 7 planets" ? ... , 7 limbs for the Heptapods

I had sent another email to Sivakov, with a few theories, but no answers yet.
The comments made on the dropbox have been removed...

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docwho2100
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I sent a message to the new professor too - but the conversation between them says "lost" - that does not sound good.

Regarding the conversation document - there is this exchange between them - so we are pairing up the numbers? There still is the odd visual way the Arkady numbers were listed (guess that was him trying different combos) - do we need to create a larger pattern from the two sets? Coordinates or some other thing that needs paired numbers?

Arkady numbers 110 156 159 149 160 140 070
Walker numbers 004 001 006 002 003 005 007

- the Conversation document lists the conversation like a twitter conversation - I am flipping it for here just to read from top down and I am adding the names that I think are speaking (the last item if it is back and forth should be Arkady, but sounds more like Walker - has anyone created a "named" copy of the conversation AKA putting the names with the talking going on? I do not want to reinvent the wheel if someone has done that)

Arkady - Yes, it is strange. Here is another thing we have in common. When I watched the end of the video where you are talking to the Pakistan shell, at the end you are mumbling something. Do you see that? You are chanting numbers. 004, 001, 006, 002, 003, 005, 007. What are those numbers?

Walker - I have no idea what those numbers are, or why I'm saying them. I have no recollection of that at all. Do you know what else is strange? Your numbers and my numbers? There are seven of them. Seven. And the Heptapods. That's can't be a coincidence.

Arkady --- Are you saying that we did not suffer accidents? That these were engineered by them?

Walker - I don't know. It could just be a hell of a coincidence.

Arkady - Maths were never my easiest topic. Do you notice any correspondence between the sets of seven numbers? Could they be paired together?

Walker - Perhaps. They don't seem to make sense as coordinates. But each number is three digits. Even when it doesn't need to be. All my numbers start with two zeroes, and your last one starts with a zero as well. Which is usually unnecessary.

Arkady - . That's right. What does that mean?

Walker - I'm not sure. I'm going to keep trying different combinations and see if they make anything that make sense.

Arkady - I just got some more info from Montana. Take a look at the photo. The Chinese have also lost one of their linguists – a Doctor Hon Fenfang

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Well they are definitely calling attention to the leading zeroes in these numbers, although that doesn't completely help identify what to do with them.


I guess we were also supposed to know that this movie was about Heptapods, in order to make the "7" connection? Seems kind of unfair.

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Jung
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Conversation doc updated:
Quote:
- I've met Doctor Hon before. I might still have an email address for her.

- Do you have her contact information? What do you want to bet that she's also got her own list of 7 three-digit numbers?

- I wish to bet nothing. My superiors have barred me from my office. Even if I still have her card there is no way for me to retrieve it.

- There's no way you can get in there? We need to find out what happened to her.

- I will try. But the authorities are not very flexible at this time, as you might imagine.


There's a way to get in touch with Dr. Hon Fenfang via her academia profile.

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docwho2100
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well the original story does mention them - there is this reference too - note, it could contain spoilers for the movie - http://www.gutenberg.us/articles/heptapod_(alien_race)


danteIL wrote:
Well they are definitely calling attention to the leading zeroes in these numbers, although that doesn't completely help identify what to do with them.


I guess we were also supposed to know that this movie was about Heptapods, in order to make the "7" connection? Seems kind of unfair.


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