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Wizmo
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 		Huh. I guess I should get my facts straight before jumping in with my brilliant observations. Or maybe I should stick to zooming in on cleavage.

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 		I think too much "zooming in" might be my problem Shocked

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BrianEnigma
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terminalskeptik wrote:
Based on the sound file, I reversed the morse code to this:
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E BYQJG OKPFV TWPXA KKZVD UQQEI

Good thought! Although, in this case I think the groups of five letters and the trailing group with just one letter, seem to indicate that (to me, at least) the morse code is forward while the masking audio is backward.
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sapagoo
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IEQQU DVZKK AXPWT VFPKO GJQYB E

AXPWT is enigma

so I'm putting away my rot and vigenere web pages, and cranking out the old enigma machine.

the rotors are obviously 324

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Justin_Case
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 		just a thought
Is it me, or there no Y on all the enigma keyboards i can find?

This being said, i agree that AXPWT is a Kenngruppen...

http://www.cloudmakers.org/journey/martin.shtml#7A10

Justin "igma" Case

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we're all morons. especially me.


IEQQU DVZKK AXPWT VFPKO GJQYB E

AXPWT is enigma

so I'm putting away my rot and vigenere web pages, and cranking out the old enigma machine.

the rotors are obviously 324


quick primer.
we need the following.
the encrypted message (we've got that)
the rotor order: 324
ring settings, (3 letters)
Enigma rotor (3 letters)
plugboard connections - pairs of letters.

suggestions from danman include the following.
ARG is either the ring settings or rotor.
the plugboard could be anything.
ED (erebia disa)
MG - mastigoproctus giganteus
maybe
WOO wizard of Oz

I think OZ could be a plugboard setting.
more to come.

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danohuiginn
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 		There's an enigma encoder/decoder at http://ozzzy.dyndns.org/eonline.html

[couldn't see one in the online tools section - perhaps somebody could add this, or if you all know a better decoder, point it out]

also, another letter pair for the plugboard would be LB for Lake B-

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danohuiginn wrote:


also, another letter pair for the plugboard would be LB for Lake B-


in #unfiction, we've decided that all the B Lakes could stand for Reflector B.

in enigma, you need a Reflector, either B or C.
All three web pages had good "reflections" on the lake.
My best guess (which doesn't seem to work)
plugboard: MG OZ ED
rotor setting ARG
ring setting: JRR
Reflector B
Rotor Order 324

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Caterpillar
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 		May the ring setting is LOT (as in Lord Of The ___ )

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woober
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 		I've got a clear decrypt on the enigma thing. The spoiler has the clues to decrypt the enigma. Of course you have to be able to decrypt any enigma, which isn't easy. Smile

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

It was posted elsewhere that the morse code was:
IEQQU DVZKK AXPWT VFPKO GJQYB E

You have to choose which roters to use -- that's a number, and there's only one numeric hint: 324

You have to choose plugboard settings; these come from the butterfly and the scorpion -- you need letter pairs; look at the latin names.

You need two more settings which are three letter combinations. One of those is ARG and the other comes from a title of one of Tolkien's works. These will be the ring settings and rotor settings (not necessairily in that order).

Take the first six letters: IEQQUD and encode them -- you should get LJSLJS in reply. Put LJS in for the setting and decode the rest, skipping the AXPWT word. (It's not part of the message.)



I'll post the result soon if noone else does.

Woober

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Shad0
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sapagoo wrote:
My best guess (which doesn't seem to work)
plugboard: MG OZ ED


Maybe DI SA instead of ED?

(which also doesn't seem to work)

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woober
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 		more enigma stuff
by the way, for the book title
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
skip the word "of"


woober

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danman_d
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 		For the book title use

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Fellowship of the Ring, or setting FTR


This yields:

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ARGNELIZAISDEAD


Woober rocks!

Next, use the only clue that hasnt been used,
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The Wizard of Oz, in which they sing "Ding, dong the witch is dead."


Tell teddy:

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ding dong eliza is dead


-Dan
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 		OMGoodness I'm feeling a bit of a boob on this adventure.

Good Job!!!

The next one looks scary, and although I wasn't around for where.gif, I've heard enough to know the title of the pic seems scary too. At least to me.

images/son-of-where.gif

The url name is t040753shpwuel10fia

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Spoiler (Rollover to View):
This looks like a golden rectangle, which means that 209-digit number must be a Fibonacci number. Yikes.


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