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Larch code at OE 6/30
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Slyfox
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Just a second clearer view of the symbols.
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Caterpillar
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If I've identified the very hard to see first and last symbols correctly (which I doubt), it may point to Enigma? Not that I have a clue what to do with it if anything......just trying to help : )

http://www.kanjisite.com/html/start/jlpt/2/all/index.html

First symbol:
Batch 30/30
8th symbol

Name: RIN / wa
Meaning: wheel, ring

Last symbol:
Batch 24/30
8th symbol

Name:BAN
Meaning: order, watch

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catherwood
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In my dictionary, that last symbol's meaning has more of the sense of "taking turns in order"; it's possible someone looked up the word "turn" and used that definition, when they really wanted the sense of "a turning wheel". Of course, I could be wrong.

The middle, more visibile symbols are similarly problematic for me. Technically, the first two sound out "majo" which in Japanese would be "witch", but the Japanese dictionary gives me a single kanji symbol for that word instead of these hiragana. The last set of middle symbols *might* be katakana for "hour" (pronounced 'ahwaa'), and together you could say it means "the witching hour", but I have not confirmed this.

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Slyfox
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Does this help anyone: 輪まじょアワー番
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 6:03 am
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phi
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Just some of my workings, thought they might help someone:

Code:
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA

Which half of the alphabet?
(1)ABCDEFGHIJKLM
(2)ZYXWVUTSRQPON

(Main Line)  57 CHARS                     (2)
(A at Base)  EKXZNTATAOLBXJFORCAOIEAJGVMAUOUCFDIZFEFPKTUZFEKDFOBFIJZAK
(which half) 112222121211211221121111121122211112111212221111121111211
Frequency table: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
                 6 2 2 2 4 7 1 0 3 3 4 1 1 1 5 1 0 1 0 3 3 1 0 2 0 4

                                          (2)
(Z at Base)  VPCAMGZGZLOYCQULIXZLRVZQTENZFLFXUWRAUVUKPGFAUVPWULYURQAZP
(which half) 221111212122122112212222212211122221222121112222212222122
Frequency table: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
                 4 0 2 0 1 3 3 0 1 0 1 5 1 1 1 4 3 3 0 1 7 4 2 2 2 6


(Faint Line) 17 CHARS
(A at Base) FURTIVISLITERARUM
(Z at Base) UFIGRERHORGVIZIFN


Della Porta table
A B a b c d e f g h i j k l m
    n o p q r s t u v w x y z
C D a b c d e f g h i j k l m
    z n o p q r s t u v w x y
E F a b c d e f g h i j k l m
    y z n o p q r s t u v w x
G H a b c d e f g h i j k l m
    x y z n o p q r s t u v w
I J a b c d e f g h i j k l m
    w x y z n o p q r s t u v
K L a b c d e f g h i j k l m
    v w x y z n o p q r s t u
M N a b c d e f g h i j k l m
    u v w x y z n o p q r s t
O P a b c d e f g h i j k l m
    t u v w x y z n o p q r s
Q R a b c d e f g h i j k l m
    s t u v w x y z n o p q r
S T a b c d e f g h i j k l m
    r s t u v w x y z n o p q
U V a b c d e f g h i j k l m
    q r s t u v w x y z n o p
W X a b c d e f g h i j k l m
    p q r s t u v w x y z n o
Y Z a b c d e f g h i j k l m
    o p q r s t u v w x y z n

Word patterns:

MID NIGHT
111 21112

ALECIA
111111

CHURCH
112211

THAD
2111

LARCH
11211

KILL
1111

MARCUS
112122

TOBI
2211

GET ESCAPED
112 1211211

IS HAS WAS WILL TO IN BEEN
12 112 212 2111 22 12 1112


The japanese means:
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The outer text (new) says rotation or turn.

The inner text says "witch" and "hour" and is a very bad japlish version at that


The faint line hints at:
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The suspected cypher is della porta. I have tried the following keywords with no success:

larch, mid, night, midnight, witch, hour, witchinghour, blue, moon, bluemoon, marcus, thespian, thad, tobi... and a few others


The puzzle should be solvable wihtout the red 2 or the circle below it, as they were added later.
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enaxor
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Here is a rather sloppy simple pic of the graph I did. I have marked the places on the graph where I see directional changes in the lines. The count on the letters I come up with is 53, but I think others have come up with 56 or 57. I've tried Rot 12 on the cipher text using different key words and I've tried Rot 12 on some key words, i.e. witch hour, witching hour, midnight. and twelve just to name a few. I've tried using these with a Porta Cipher as well as with a Vigenere table. I've tried using words I think might be in the message (Marcus, kill, Tobi, Larch) to see if I could find the key word, but so far no luck. I'm running out of ideas..
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