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four9erfan
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[Wild Spec] cpt keys......ilovebees "CAPTAIN KEYES!!! All those messages are from the character of Captain Keyes from HALO!!! Just look at it... he talks about the stars. Captain keyes, if my memory serves me, was taught to look at the stars as a guide from his father, which is where he got the pipe from. He also has that flood in his mind "head full of sand." All the stuff about being "shipwrecked." Those are Keyes' memories being stolen by the thing in his head, the infection form. All the stuff about the spread of things and hemmorages, that's happening to Captain Keyes. It all adds up. My knowledge of the book is horrible, but this sounds just like captain keyes.
Look at this:
"totally different kind of memory all of a sudden, floating up like a bubble from deep water, then *pop* on the surface of my mind. All in black and white for some reason, faded out, or just time bleaching the past like it does, time is hard that way, if you-" this was said on the Ilovebees site, and it sounds like memories being stolen, just like how Keyes' memoiries were being stolen. It's all in the book: Halo the flood."
i found this.....and it seems to make a lot of sense
edited to add topic header - SG
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 9:52 pm
Paynie
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Bungie said in a interview with IGN that Cpt. Keyes was dead for good.
Theory, pwnd.
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 9:58 pm
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 9:59 pm
four9erfan
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uh......who said the site is about halo 2?
it could be memories by cpt keyes from halo
because* it makes sense if you* think about it
one of the message* things is about the navy.....cpt keyes was* in the* navy
and the one about when he is shipwrecked.....cpt keyes was* shipwrecked, when the piller of autum crashed into halo
and many more
* edited for horrid spelling that raped my eyeballs - SG
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 11:25 pm
jamesi
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(s)he's right, this could totally be a marketing campaign/online experience for a console game that has already been released .
Er, um... no. I'm suspecting (and trout me at will once I am proven wrong) that this Captain Keyes has nothing to do with anything.
Mind you, given the speculation you've provided, I wouldn't put it past the PMs to be developing a game about Gilligan's Island. I mean, the Skipper, wasn't he in the Navy? And wasn't there something about being shipwrecked? Oh, and top of that, the Professor was always quite resourceful -- could he somehow be involved with the Cortana letters?
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 11:31 pm
Max Damage
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Okay, semi-spoilery here, but..
Here's why this theory doesn't work. Keyes is the deadest character who ever did die.
First, he gets infected by the flood and turned into a hideous mutant blob, but then the Master Chief proceeds to rip out his brain/neural implants. That's two deaths already.
Then, as if he wasn't already dead enough, you go and nuke Halo as well. The violated and now-brainless corpse of Keyes is on Halo. Hence: Boom.
I don't think any character has died harder.
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:44 am
Aker
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Sarge has died harder, several times, and now he's back! ROCK ON SARGE
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 6:01 am
Max Damage
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Aker wrote:
Sarge has died harder, several times, and now he's back! ROCK ON SARGE
You never actually see him die - you see him getting attacked, but the camera turns away just before he supposedly dies.
He survives (read First Strike) and rejoins the Master Chief.
The rule of movies here is that if you don't see that corpse, he's not dead
Keyes - not only do you see the corpse, but you proceed to violate it, and THEN 'splode it. That's the difference.
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 6:06 am
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Another bit of rampant speculation (this one partially inspired by the BBV movie DOWNTIME):
Perhaps Keyes got trapped in a computer system while he was attempting to keep hold of his sanity (remeber the bit in The Flood where he's trying to keep hold of his sense of self -and thus his sanity - by latching onto his CNI Transponder carrier wave, the only think in Keyes's mind that the Flood can't infect).
A similar thing happens to Danny Hinton in DOWNTIME - he's trying to break into the New World University mainframe, gets tagged by the Great Intelligence (an old Dcotor Who baddie from THE WEB OF FEAR), and - when his body is turned into a Yeti servitor by one of the Intelligences control spheres - his mind (or essence, if you will - the experiences, memories, and other bits of mental flotsam and jetsam that make him Danny Hinton instead of, say, Kate Lethbridge-Stewart or Sonny Bono) gets trapped in the New World mainframes.
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:08 pm
No.
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Is Keyes female?
No?
The Operator thinks that she's female.
"Get it together, girl."
The whole "Queen" thing.
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:12 pm
Max Damage
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And again..
A: Keyes is the DEADEST CHARACTER WHO EVER DID DIE.
B: Unless we see some conclusive proof of time travel in the Halo universe, then we're not getting anywhere fast.
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:13 pm
keybsnbits
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How does this explain being called "The Operator" -- one of the few things SHE remembers.
Edit: Somebody hook this thread up with either a lock or a big trout slapping fest.
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:15 pm
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I think Time Travel exists in the books, but I haven't read them, just relaying what I read in another thread.
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:15 pm
keybsnbits
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No. wrote:
I think Time Travel exists in the books, but I haven't read them, just relaying what I read in another thread.
How is this being (possibly from the Halo universe) in our time period without there being time travel?? That's one thing I'd really like explained.
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:17 pm
Primus
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Max Damage wrote:
B: Unless we see some conclusive proof of time travel in the Halo universe, then we're not getting anywhere fast.
Someone posted in another thread that the third Halo fiction book actually does have time travel elements in it.
TheBiggestSean wrote:
In the third book written (First Strike), announced as a part of the continuity and essentially edited by Halo's story masters, a curious piece of ancient alien technology allows Cortana and the Master Chief to fly a hijacked Covenant cruiser backwards through time, rewininding essentially a week and a half to just a few days after the destruction of the stronghold of the Human Colonies, Reach. The Master Chief finds out that the SPARTANs on Reach had found and somehow activated a device which could bend time and space itself, essentially yanking the two points of time next to each other so that the Chief could rendezvous with them and extract them...
That being said, yeah, Keyes is DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD.
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:18 pm
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