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ShanSlam
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 		Four Factor
As a Mole-hunter alumni, I found myself right in the thick-of-it-all when it came to number theories (especially when it was revealed in Mole 1 that Kathryn was the fourth player shown in ep1 and since there were four letters in M O L E that was a clue she was the mole. Yeah, whatever.) Ultimately, I found them a little simplistic and appealing mostly to the lowest common denominator of clue hunters

So it is with a little trepidation that I share this spec...mainly regarding any future reputation I may have as a poster on this board. Wink

We were reminded twice in ep1 that the desert heat could "kill a man in 4 hours" On the surface this might be viewed as a running gag, kind of like when people say about the desert temperature "but it's a dry heat" Yeah, hahaha. But when you put this next to Jim's discovery that the per capita income of Push has risen from $12,426 in 1983 to $44,440 in 1985, it makes me wonder what is up with the number "four". 44,440 (four fours) is kind of a strange number to come up with as a total by chance.

I still need to look closer but could it be in reference to the fourth word spoken every ep as creating a sentence, or some such thing?

Again, these things always make me cringe because it creates a spirit of counting everything and that usually leads to obsessive compulsive "Rainman" type behavior that is probably not a sign of a healthy mind. Still, I thought I might toss this out there.

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 		was it actually $44,440? I thought it was a more oddly-rounded number than that, but of course I don't have transcripts or nuthin to look at.

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cpababe
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 		Hey, Shan! It's far too early to discount anything. There have been a bunch of recurring numbers, including 4, 13, 6, 15 just to name a few. I see no reason not to look into something like you suggest, but it may be too early to establish a true pattern. I suspect they may lead us back to some of these things in later episodes.

Keep your eyes open for the title of Ep. 7! Very Happy

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ShanSlam
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 		Here is the transcript from http://www.pushdiner.com/episodes/epi1/transcript.html:

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And then, around '85, the town turns around. Per capita income moves from $12,426 per household in 1983 to $44,440 in 1985. New businesses come in, housing starts go up 300%, crime plummets -- the whole thing turns around.


I remember thinking, "That's a lot of fours" as Jim spit out that number. Maybe it's just a red-herring...but, as CPA pointed out, it is probably good to keep it in the back of your head.

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 		Another reference on pushtimes. (Job's business profile)

"This heat will kill a man in four hours," Job points out. "What do people think it'll do to a poorly maintained vehicle?"

They do say that a lot don't they, very redundant of them no?

~cem

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 		And Jim said in Episode 3 that he watched the tables for 4 hours!!!
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ShanSlam
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 		And in ep3, we were told once again that the heat will Kill a man in "4" hours. Maybe Push can become a drinking game! Whenever they say this phrase, everyone downs a beer. Very Happy

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 		When Jim is in the casino watching all the games being played, twice I saw a sequence where the camera focused on the dealer turning over an ace and a three.

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catherwood
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 		Darn it, i think these later references to "four" will kill my theory before it's even posted.

I thought the number 4 was mainly featured in ep.1, while ep.2 seemed more about the number 9, and ep.3 beat us over the head with the number 7.

4-9-7-?

If the next episode has a favorite single-digit number that glaringly stands out, i'll bump my theory to a new thread.

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