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[PUZZLE? ILB.com:] Stegged pictures?
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markoff
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i'm a bit curious about the images themselves, but I don't know enough to figure out if what i'm seeing is just compression artifacts, or something else.


The "normal" version of the bee2_margaretphoto.jpg has very obivous 8x8 blocks of distortion across the entire image. Those 8x8 blocks are disrupted at the right edge of columns (last block is only two wide) and the bottom rows (last block is 4 wide). That gives a total of 56x23= 1288 full 8x8 blocks to 'work with' if those distortions are the source of the information.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 6:27 am
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Noir
Boot

Joined: 28 Jul 2004
Posts: 47

I think that perhaps an old military adage is needed here:

Keep It Simple.

Potential Passphrases:
Truth
Tru7h
Reveal The Tru7h
Seek The Tru7h
Behold The Tru7h
August 24th, 2004
82404
arbitrarily long sequences of 7's and/or 3's.
Hide the Tru7h
arbitrarily complex multiples, factors, exponents, etc. of 7 and/or 3
Bungie
Microsoft
Halo (2)
I Love Bees (.com)

Variation guidelines:
The above numbers codified into alphabetical characters, or the above alphabetical characters codified into numbers.
adding/removing spaces, underscores, dashes, punctuation
mixing the above entries
adding strings of 7's and/or 3's of an arbitrary length

If I didn't use WinME I'd do this quite heartily on my own.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:48 am
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accidentalsuccess
Boot

Joined: 27 Jul 2004
Posts: 31

somebody try: oly oly oxen free
?

I searched, nobody put that phrase in. Try it, that's the spartan's code. I'm at work and can't do it myself. Very Happy

PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 11:11 am
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Guest
Guest


LilSerf wrote:
Guest wrote:
I did a quick look-see, and it appears no one has, as yet, noticed that a paper titled "Hide and Seek: An Introduction to Steganography" was written by a Neils Provos and one Peter Honeyman. Perhaps it's just a coincidence, but I wonder if there's something about this document that could yield some clues.

(Here's the URL: http://niels.xtdnet.nl/papers/practical.pdf )


Well, Neils Provos wrote stegdetect, and JPHIDE and JPSEEK are steganography tools. I think Honeyman is just a bizarre coincidence.


But if not, perhaps it would explain the bizarre list of passwords on his page ( http://www.citi.umich.edu/u/honey/ ), reproduced here for convenience:

«0Grac10us» «1108AV!» «1234» «2tuffc@z» «41876805» «59344rjm» «920baby2» «9pr00th1-X3>» «==3tez9» «akanelog» «anshu9smile» «arwen2356» «atnihcuc» «aurochs99anioni» «besttune» «bone$bone» «bornin1968» «Brasilia» «Budha696*» «chouse» «cyfrif» «dandan2» «dec2246» «Duck4soup» «dvk099» «e7cne7m9» «eran2052» «furnish» «G1zmoniq!» «getl0st» «grads37x» «gtaclu8» «hazel.ann» «hc7425» «HENRYBASSET» «H^ndspring1» «IBM4ALL» «im4drugs» «IufIwcu» «jsvig123» «king41» «KraneWeb23» «k3k#Daqo» «king41» «KissOff» «kkB5cKkn0» «lil2785» «maduser» «mago1406» «magocarvalho» «maxd2987» «Medusa99» «mlc4jcf» «moresecure» «mspiggy» «munchie» «n0tebang» «n6t9u7» «NEVERagain!» «nsxla» «p00p00» «pf-itAot?78» «PGIfeti» «qu12232» «redletter» «ref23k» «rhomudomain0» «S0crates» «s212» «s3cure» «sens7ea5we» «Shellcoin1» «sn8spr» «spaguswavo» «stingray» «tamarind» «tasha17» «therwil2» «Thews95» «tlif0cam» «tod38417» «tr.fbgi!» «tXt2ip9» «vanbj145» «vr6_golf» «wcp076» «whumpus1» «wlsnrl00» «yitsotsb» «YogoBumpit1» «_PKFC;G»

For the small amount of time it would take to try these, perhaps it would be worth the effort. This is left as an exercise for the reader. Wink

PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 11:49 am
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Joseph_shaw
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there are lots of mentions of queen and widow. these are other names for "queenwidow":

Bathild, Baldechilde, Baldhild, Bauteur

don't know if it will help or not.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 11:51 am
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Kallelin
Boot

Joined: 29 Jul 2004
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A Warning.

None of the honeyman passwords work, but I'm lucky to have survived the tedium of entering them. You are now my mortal enemy, 'Guest'. Twisted Evil

BWAH HA HA HA!

Oh, and all the "queenwidow" names do not work, either with just the first letter capitalized, none, or all capitalized.

Also, accidentalsuccess, olly olly oxen free has been tried in many variations and such to no avail. The search prolly prompted no results because of the many different spellings.

... So I don't get to trout you, huh? Sad

PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 12:51 pm
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accidentalsuccess
Boot

Joined: 27 Jul 2004
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I took the spelling directly from the book, and apparently nobody posted it up here.

Trout another day, yay! Cool

PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 1:09 pm
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Guest
Guest


Re: A Warning.

Kallelin wrote:
None of the honeyman passwords work, but I'm lucky to have survived the tedium of entering them. You are now my mortal enemy, 'Guest'. Twisted Evil

BWAH HA HA HA!


Good thing I chose to remain an anonymous coward. Wink

Although... the task did afford you the opportunity to learn how to use regexp or other tools to automate the formatting/entry... Razz

...nonetheless, I was hoping my suspicions about these coincidences would pay off. Pity. Confused Thanks for helping anyway, Kallelin. Cheers!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 1:50 pm
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Lorre
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Please tell me you guys have tried every possible date related to Bungie, Microsoft, I Love Bees,... written in every way possible?

Just 'cause I haven't seen anybody mantion this in this thread, thought I'd mention it...

PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 2:34 pm
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Kallelin
Boot

Joined: 29 Jul 2004
Posts: 16

Just had an idea. Some 'random' words have been popping up in that bee sound file and I think there's at least a slight possibility that they're related to the steg passcode. Neither puzzle is getting anywhere, maybe because we're only looking at them separately. Someone help me out on trying to see if the sound info fits into the stegs?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 3:24 pm
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EvilMonkey
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Possible passwords

Ok, after about an hour of deep thougth an analysis, if have had some thoughts about this. I tried to search to make sure this is not Trout. If it is, i am truly sorry. Anyway, here it is:

Quote:
"of course, if I am behind enemy lines, then constantly shouting for help wouldn't be the smartest play in the world, would it?
got to run silent. got to run deep"

Sounds like a reference to a submarine to me. The most famous submarine i could think of is the Nautilus from 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea. This is also a REAL nautilus sub: the USS Nautilus SSN 571. Now, thinking about the ocean and mythology, you have to think of Neptune and Poseidon. All of this info might help for password use. I have tried submarine, Nautilus, SSN571, Neptune, and Poseidon. But i have not exhausted all the case sensitive possibilities, nor anything including our favorite number, "7".

The number "7" (and the fact that Bungie has used Biblical references in the past) brings me to my next possible password subject:

Quote:
"hide and go seek"

Matthew 7:7 from the Bible says:
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you"

I have tried using "matthew77" and "knock", but as above, i have not tried all the case sensitive options, spaces, punctuations, etc.

Once again, sorry if this is Trout (but i DID search), but i hope this helps.

(as a side note, i also tried "y1dt8hx" [the web cookie] to no avail)

PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 11:07 pm
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Joseph_Shaw
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maybe theres nothing there at all...
we'll all see eventually, wiether we figure it out or not.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 12:18 am
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number8
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Joined: 26 Jul 2004
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Location: Toronto, Canada

Does anyone know about the max length of the pass phrase? If it's short then we might have a chance at breaking this.
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Drool problem quite interesting Drool

PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 2:31 am
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nc
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number8 wrote:
Does anyone know about the max length of the pass phrase? If it's short then we might have a chance at breaking this.


Looks to be 100(+?), case-sensitive, alphanumeric. In other words: Not likely to be brute-forced any time in the foreseeable future -- barring some kind of astronomical luck, or bad password choice.

And then there's alway the likely chance it's a false positive.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 3:02 am
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CrispyG4
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Joined: 01 Aug 2004
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Location: Tallahassee, FL

Hey guys. I'm gonna help you try and crack this too. Razz

I'm running win XP so I'm a bit more limited than the Unix/Linux users... :\

If you wanna talk about this my AIM is Crispy0wnzj00, Yahoo IM is CrispyG4, and my MSN is crispyg4SPLATyahoo.com

God be with us... Sad

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