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[SPEC] Physical Axon Pattern Revisited
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improvius
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[SPEC] Physical Axon Pattern Revisited

Has anyone tried to look at the locations of the axons lately? We've all been so absorbed with the wav files, and I'm afraid we might be missing some other clues. What does it look like on a map if we connect all of the points in each axon?

-Imp

PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:55 pm
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sherpa
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This is a good idea, and had I time, I'd go through the axons. Everyone seems to accept that the reason the axons are there is so that payphones will ring. But why these payphones, and not others? Is there a pattern, more data within the data? (The co-ordinates are being removed as they go hot, so perhaps not...)

I'd guess they were picked to be close to players, but there's the faint possibility there's more to it than that.
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Madjoy
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I'm working on a map with all the locations pin pointed, i'll post a picture of it when I'm done, it's taking awhile Confused

Update

Alright here it is...doesn't look like anything special...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v440/Madjoy/location-map.jpg

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cjb
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"Bars and triangles, and dots, ordered but non-repeating patterns. A message, yes."

can anybody make that fit the data?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:34 pm
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Eck
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Perhaps now that we had an order of the wav files secured, that has something to do with it. Either go in order of the wavs from point to point, or soemthing like that. thoughts?

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improvius
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I'd specifically like to see what happens when you take all 7 points in each axon and connect them. So basically you would end up with 30 shapes/curves on the map. Or maybe find the average point for each axon, giving you 30 points on a map.

I don't know if I have the resources to put this together myself, but if nobody else does it, I think I'll have to.

-Imp

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cjb
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I was thinking either that, or match up the first points from each group, then the second, etc...ending up with 7 sequences.

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cjb
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anybody have a good online GPS plotter? This one looks like what I need: http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/map?form=waypoints

...but I can't get it to work with the data, which I've put into a .csv format:
Code,Time (PDT),1st Coord.,2nd Coord

blip,06:07,38.891883,-77.026117
blip,06:11,41.511567,-81.607317
blip,06:15,42.970906,-77.228967
blip,06:19,41.652214,-70.289091
blip,06:23,35.247483,-80.80515
blip,06:27,40.451597,-79.932884
blip,06:31,31.217259,-85.360847


edit: nm, just use the default header (name,desc,latitude,longitude)

I don't see anything interesting in the first group:

PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:41 pm
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strentax
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cjb wrote:

I don't see anything interesting in the first group:


You may want to note that your blip3 is the old coordinate, which puts it somewhere in NY; in fact, the new coordinate puts it near a city of the same name in CT.

edit: just noticed, that if you place blip3 in the correct spot, you can see that there is one central location (Washington DC) and then axons grow outwards in straight lines, one in "each" direction (the new england coordinates would qualify as "close" with this argument). Anyone else see this?

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Ranma
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There was an interesting connection between the axons located around st. louis.

One of them was located near a town/area called "blackjack". blackjack=21

Another was just inside of a best buy. that best buy's store id number is 42. 42/2=21

Another was right next to a community college and the payphone's last four numbers, 9570, add up to 21.

still trying to find a 21 connection for the fourth st. louis axon i was at. it was right outside of an old Sports Authority building. Unfortunately the building is shut down so I can't get any info on the address as of yet. There was an applebee's right next to it though and the address there was something like 5031 so the sports authority address could be 5021, but that's just speculation.

Also both 210 and 777 are divisable by 21.

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Madjoy
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Here's a bigger version.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v440/Madjoy/location_map.jpg

I never thought about just pinning the separate axons... should i try that and waste more of my day? lol

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strentax
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I got obsessed and pinned the first 5 .wav groups, and made a gif out of it so you could compare one after another.

There are subtle patterns but I can't pinpoint them.

Here's a link to save bandwidth:

http://www.rit.edu/~bjw2273/sequence.gif

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Madjoy
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Here's the locations of the Blip, pillow, walkaway girl, and hey soldier axons.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v440/Madjoy/blip-heysoldier_locations.jpg

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persimmon8
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Waggle dances?

Bees are known to do this thing called the waggle dance. Basically, it's a way to communicate where the food is. Quoting from: http://insects.ummz.lsa.umich.edu/MES/notes/entnote22.html

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This dance pattern is repeated a number of times. The angle of the straight run, or "waggle," from vertical is equal to the angle from the hive between the sun and the nectar/pollen source. If the flowers are located 45 degrees to the right of the sun, the dance will be oriented 45 degrees to right of vertical. The distance of the straight waggle run is proportional to the distance from the hive to the source.


Maybe the coordinates match that somehow?

- Per

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vector
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axon plot

I have plotted out all of the phone locations and grouped them by axon group. In do not belive that locations in each group are random. i think that there is a deffinate pattern here, just not sure what it is just yet.

The one possability that i am working on is that the axon groups connect to make out star constellations. the Durga group is eaisly Cassiopia and Hay_Aden could be Aries. Here is a map of a few of them.

I have the abillity and software to map out just about anything so if there is something that you would like to see let me know.

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