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Pezdro-Unloggedin
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LilSerf wrote:
aliendial wrote:
Consider moving "scratched vinyl" into the same line with the ancient music, jazz and swing: such as scratched vinyl and ancient music, jazz and swing. Also, since the last version I saw had thrown away 'in the mood' - try this: scratched vinyl and ancient music, jazz and swing, "In the Mood"


The phrases are in sets of 3 -- scratched vinyl came with You Could Break My Heart, not with Ancient Music.

That is, the page gave 3 sets of 7 links. Each 7-link set resulted in a phrase, and this story results from keeping the 3 phrases in order for each page we got.


Speaking of which, I can't seem to get all the sets on my page, I want to confirm that there is a set only of 2 sets of 7.

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 		The reason I asked if it still needed tweaking was the "all in the mood" line - I can't really get it to fit anywhere that seems natural.

It's still bothering me, but I really can't seem to place it without ruining other phrases that seem to go well together. Play with it some more if you can, it seems prettty good now but that one line still sticks out to me.

I'll keep looking at it from time to time to see if an obvious answer pops up.

Pezdro, a missing phrase would probably solve this problem. I'll try confirming the set of 2 my self, since it does seem very strange.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 5:55 pm
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 		I can confirm that there is one set of only 2 groups of 7 URLs.

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 		Re: melissa
eMouse wrote:
thr4k4 wrote:
So; Melissa = Queen = Operator. We reach her through ladybee777SPLAThotmail.com. She feels Dana is a killer - which is perfectly understandable. She has captured images of Dana through Dana's own webcam.


We're talking about a highly fragmented AI at the moment, and we have no clear idea what its 'rules' are.

It's speculatory, but I believe that the AI might be made up of a series of parts....

Queeen/Melissa - dominant personality of the AI, the product of the other components plus additional programming (shows a lot of anger and could be on the verge of rampancy?)

Widow/SPDR - mechanical construct designed to maintain the Queen, both to put the Queen back together, but possibly also to keep it in check (prevent rampancy?)

Princess/Original Melissa(?) - core personality that the AI is based on from, more 'innocent' and probably does not contain whatever programming has been added to the Queen

Flea - Dunno yet. If the flea is human, could this be the original person that Melissa was copied from?


Here's my take:
This is a memory of the Queen/Operator when she was Melissa, which was a human (that's why she was married). According to some threads on the general page this is possible. This memory was evoked when the SPDR was repairing her. The Queen now however, doesn't like these memories. In fact, she is bitter about her previous life as a person. Go to this thread to see how I think it goes together: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4943&sid=f93607a9379349f5da88673394d6b5c3
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 		I'm pretty sure the sailor is the one who was married and not Mellissa;

... used my nickname. "It's a sad thing I'm Married. | You could break my heart." The weather was stormy. Scratched vinyl and ...

Mellissa was a hologram, "drinking" with the castaway. That is how I interpretted the line, anyway.
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 		And the Odysseus reference ties in with the Troy thing, right? As mentioned here.

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 		I interpreted that "It's a sad thing I'm Married." was something Melissa wsa thinking of. It's just my thoery anyway. Both works under different context I think.
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 		Disagree with spec that this memory was from when she was human. AIs are modelled after the structure of the human mind in the Bungie univers -not necessarily a 1:1 copy. My take is that they picked up this Castaway (there was a Spartan who was flung out into space during the battle for Reach) and that he called her not by her nick (The Operator) but by her name, Melissa (greek: honey bee [a thing that goes afar and gathers Honey and brings it back to the Hive]). She interacted with him holigraphically, much in the way Cortana did in the FPS (also this would explain why she doesnt drink). Consider also that the AI is 'married' to the ship it is controlling.

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ste wrote:
And the Odysseus reference ties in with the Troy thing, right? As mentioned here.


I think Odysseus is the ship castaway was on right?
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number8 wrote:
ste wrote:
And the Odysseus reference ties in with the Troy thing, right? As mentioned here.


I think Odysseus is the ship castaway was on right?


I would say so.
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 		Re: melissa
number8 wrote:
eMouse wrote:
thr4k4 wrote:
So; Melissa = Queen = Operator. We reach her through ladybee777SPLAThotmail.com. She feels Dana is a killer - which is perfectly understandable. She has captured images of Dana through Dana's own webcam.


We're talking about a highly fragmented AI at the moment, and we have no clear idea what its 'rules' are.

It's speculatory, but I believe that the AI might be made up of a series of parts....

Queeen/Melissa - dominant personality of the AI, the product of the other components plus additional programming (shows a lot of anger and could be on the verge of rampancy?)

Widow/SPDR - mechanical construct designed to maintain the Queen, both to put the Queen back together, but possibly also to keep it in check (prevent rampancy?)

Princess/Original Melissa(?) - core personality that the AI is based on from, more 'innocent' and probably does not contain whatever programming has been added to the Queen

Flea - Dunno yet. If the flea is human, could this be the original person that Melissa was copied from?


Here's my take:
This is a memory of the Queen/Operator when she was Melissa, which was a human (that's why she was married). According to some threads on the general page this is possible. This memory was evoked when the SPDR was repairing her. The Queen now however, doesn't like these memories. In fact, she is bitter about her previous life as a person. Go to this thread to see how I think it goes together: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4943&sid=f93607a9379349f5da88673394d6b5c3


Ste link leads to an arguement which states that there may be Covenant AI in the mix.

At first glance it's a bit difficult to know who is married in that context (the ai, in their old human personality or the sailor). But why would an AI worry about marriage first, instead of not being able to particpate in a real religion. I can't seem to pinpoint exactly what I don't feel that the AI is the one who worries about marriage. But part of me feels, that it has to deal with Odysseus. The whole point of Odysseus's story is that he's trying to get back home to his wife. He comes across a goddess who will let him live forever and sleep with him and provide his every need, and he still leaves her for his wife.

Odysseus's name is too powerful and too concidential to have little value in this memory. This specific memory was not only here for us to learn the Queen's name but to give us and understanding of her mindset post crash.

Troy linkage is now immensly powerful into this too. This game is just getting better and better.

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 		marriage
It is the castaway that says that he is sorry that he is married, because Melissa is so beautifull that it would ruin him that she is only a holograph.

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 		Castaway = Spartan
This is pure speculation (likely trout bait), but could the Castaway be one of the few missing Spartans? Perhaps it is even the Master Chief, but I tend to doubt this. Why? Mainly because the Master Chief was traveling with an AI (Cortana) and I think the story of him being picked up from his Longsword is in the Halo book First Strike, but I don't think it matches this story.

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 		Re: marriage
I'm sure the take on this is that The Castaway claims that he's married. The story feels natural and right that way. This stranger's come on board, and he's flattering Melissa, and then he says it's a pity he's married, as if the fact that she's a hologram is irrelevent, as if his marriage is the only thing that stopping him from falling for her. I guess that he gains her trust and betrays her.

The clue here is in the phrasing - "seemed noble, classical, and pure". The paragraph is about why she trusted him, why she loved him, why she fell for it. He made her feel real.

Perhaps - perhaps - why she ended up betraying Earth's location to him, and why she's here, in this mess.

As for the Odysseus thing; it could be the name of the ship, but although that makes grammatical sense, it's not rhythmic enough for me. As a fact it's quite redundant; as a metaphor it's extremely powerful.

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 		Re: marriage
ste wrote:
I'm sure the take on this is that The Castaway claims that he's married. The story feels natural and right that way. This stranger's come on board, and he's flattering Melissa, and then he says it's a pity he's married, as if the fact that she's a hologram is irrelevent, as if his marriage is the only thing that stopping him from falling for her. I guess that he gains her trust and betrays her.

The clue here is in the phrasing - "seemed noble, classical, and pure". The paragraph is about why she trusted him, why she loved him, why she fell for it. He made her feel real.

Perhaps - perhaps - why she ended up betraying Earth's location to him, and why she's here, in this mess.

As for the Odysseus thing; it could be the name of the ship, but although that makes grammatical sense, it's not rhythmic enough for me. As a fact it's quite redundant; as a metaphor it's extremely powerful.


I see. She's romantcizing this Characther... Who will betray her. Man you deserve a cookie for seeing that.

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