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Roc
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 		And why would the Pious Flea hide from the Widow?
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Meanwhile, the Pious Flea was so small that even the Widow, with her sharp eyes, could hardly see him, and when she looked his way, he hid.

He's pious. We've assumed that he's one of the Queen's subjects... but it isn't explicit.
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Other than the Widow, two alone had escaped destruction.

So the Queen isn't included in escaping destruction (understandable), but the Manticore and the enchanted servants aren't included either. So one would expect that the Flea and the Princess are wholly intact.

So why would an undamaged Pious Flea hide from the servant of the Queen?

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It happened one day, about noon, going towards my boat, I was exceedingly surprised with the print of a flea's naked foot on the shore, which was very plain to be seen on the sand.

A flashback from The Operator suggests that the Queen was surprised to see the print of the flea's naked foot - but it doesn't explicitly state whether she was apprehensive or relieved with this.
The line is a modification from Robinson Crusoe ('flea' exchanged with 'man'), and the following line in that story is:
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I stood like one thunderstruck, or as if I had seen an apparition. I listened, I looked round me, but I could hear nothing, nor see anything; I went up to a rising ground to look farther; I went up the shore and down the shore, but it was all one; I could see no other impression but that one. I went to it again to see if there were any more, and to observe if it might not be my fancy; but there was no room for that, for there was exactly the print of a foot - toes, heel, and every part of a foot. How it came thither I knew not, nor could I in the least imagine; but after innumerable fluttering thoughts, like a man perfectly confused and out of myself, I came home to my fortification, not feeling, as we say, the ground I went on, but terrified to the last degree, looking behind me at every two or three steps, mistaking every bush and tree, and fancying every stump at a distance to be a man.


Then, considering the Halo connection, devout religiousness is an attribute ascribed to the Covenant. So a Pious Flea, whose footprint terrifies the Operator, who hides from the Queen's dedicated servant the Widow/SPDR -- may indeed be something wholly malevolent.
It indeed may be what caused the destruction of their vessel.
And it survived.

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 		Reminds me of what happened at the REACH Spacedock in THE FALL OF REACH:

Covenant hackers infiltrate REACH computer systems, release transient AI (a one-shot AI program designed to do a job and then terminate itself).

AI scours REACH databases for information ont he location of Earth.

AI detects navigational data relating to the location of Earth on the ONI stealth ship CIRCUMFERENCE, and is in turn detected by security programs.

Security programs sound the alarm - "COLE PROTOCOL HAS BEEN BREACHED!"

A similar program could easily have been used against our friend the Operator, only the transient AI was designed to disable or destroy the Operator.
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Roc
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 		Interesting indeed.

Suppose the Princess is Covenant AI, sent to search for earth's coordinates on Troy.
She stows away with the Spartan Odysseus, hiding within him, to gain entrance undetected. Unbeknownst to her, the castaway finds passage on an ONI intelligence craft merely disguised as a pleasure yacht. She sends out The Pious Flea to scour the systems of the ship she finds herself on.

The Pious Flea leaves a footprint which is seen by The Operator. The Operator, terrified by the implication, plunges into immediate scouring of the ship, which leads to the Princess' capture and imprisonment.

The Princess' capture leads to the decrypt that the Covenant are going to glass Troy, and she becomes ONI's toehold into covenant C&C.

Following the catastrophe and spacetime travel, the Princess finds herself, (un)luckily for us, still in her glass coffin, but now on Earth. Should she get free, she will be trivially able to determine Earth's coordinates, and send a transmission to Covenant C&C. Given the time needed for the communication to reach covenant space at our tech level, it would make sense that it won't even reach Covenant C&C for several hundred years.

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 		But if we assume that, as seems likely, all these AIs got thrown back in time, it's possible that the message from Earth in our time reaches the Covenant at just the right time for Halo 2.

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rowan
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 		spec spec and more spec
I was actually writing this before I went to lunch and then posted in a new topic since it was more SPEC than INFO. But if everyone else is spec'ing here, might as well add to it.

This is similar to Roc's post above, but takes the Princess out of the equation. That is: What if the Castaway is the Pious Flea?

There's slight circumstantial evidence to back it up. Both are male and you see the Pious Flea's footprint in the text from Robinson Crusoe, another castaway.

Now here comes the utter spec part: in order for the Castaway to be the Flea, he would have to be some sort of AI (unlikely since he actually drinks while Melissa doesn't) or he introduced an AI component (based upon himself?) into Melissa/The Operator. Why? Maybe because he didn't want the Capt Greene and crew to warn HQ about Troy? And how to do that: introduce a trojan horse type program (the flea) into Melissa to disable her and that's why she crashed. It would also explain why the Flea tried to hide from the Widow/SPDR. If it was found and destroyed, then perhaps Melissa could be reconstructed and the mission might not be an utter failure (especially if Melissa somehow got herself sent back in time).

See, similar, but my idea has the Castaway being the one to sabotage Melissa directly instead of being an unwitting accomplice. (And honestly, I did come up with this idea seperately from Roc Very Happy )
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:55 pm
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Xasper
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 		Castaway = flea
See my post further up in this thread.

The Castaway could still be alive, having been the soul human survivor of the crash. If the spider is some sort of mechanized repair bot (nothing really prevents this from being true) then it could literally see the human sneeking around, and hiding. The flea/castaway might be trying to repair Melissa/The Operator as well, thus leaving the footprint. His intention may be malicious, if he were indeed a Covenant spy, attempting the repair in order to extract information about Earth. He might be trying to restore the backup copy of Melissa that some have speculated is the sleeping princess.

Lot's of speculation going on in this thread. May a new one on this topic labelled as such?

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peeveen1
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 		I posted some thoughts on The Spider in another topic. I should've posted them here, as this topic seems more relevant. Anyway ... http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4920

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rowan
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 		Re: Castaway = flea
Xasper wrote:
See my post further up in this thread.


Ok, I'll give myself a Trout Probably the reason I didn't find it was I was searching for Pious Flea. Ah well.

And I also think that this should be split into a [SPEC] The Characters thread. Not a whole lot of definitive info at the moment.
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