unforum

**Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:07 am

_________________
"I still miss him to this day and probably always will." - Todd Keeler, Chasing the Wish

"meta meta meta, I made you out of play..." ~ j5

fyzle · Veteran Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 104

**Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:11 am

Varin

**Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:15 am

_________________
"I still miss him to this day and probably always will." - Todd Keeler, Chasing the Wish

"meta meta meta, I made you out of play..." ~ j5

fyzle · Veteran Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 104

A reorginization of the poem:

Do you know what living in the eternal garden is?
Do you know what living in the eternal garden is?

*open/close questions

I remember that piece I was playing only on black keys.
I remember that game of nine weaving fingers we played.
I remember they saying it is not poetry, it is not game.

*recalling her memories
*In the third memory,
-peotry refers to the (poetic) lyrics of Itsy Bitsy Spider
-game refers to (game) Cat's Cradle or the Itsy Bitsy Spider game...?

The time machine is loosing pieces and still doesn't know.
Memories falling down and melting like unknown snow.

*losing her memory

Rain. Rain. Rain. Will you help myself whole again?
*She wants Ame to come back and merge w/ her...?
Spiders coming and under the sun I remember no more.
*The docs with meds come back in the morning, and I act "normal" again.

Actually, this is beginning to look like a profile for a glucose/elelctro-shock treatment patient.

Glucose shock/ electroshock treatment is for the progressive erasure of short term memory.

If repeated enough times, you can clean the slate...

**Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:21 am

Robert · Boot Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 41 Location: Ottawa

Hi Guys,

I think we are focusing too much of our efforts in the wrong direction. Lucrezia (or whoever she is) has always written cryptic emails about rain, spiders, and what not - but these messages are confusing and incoherent.

I believe, in time, that the story behind Lucrezia's alleged mental illness and dissociative identities will become much clearer. However, in order to progress, I think we need to focus less on possible metaphors and more on actual clues we have been provided. We still have two mystery numbers to decipher, not to mention freeme, whatever that might refer to. We should also be looking for hidden messages in the email she sent ... because this could explain such obscure references.

The closure of her Orkut account has further narrowed our search. But this is likely a good sign. Under the assumption that someone else is trying to contact us through Lucrezia (and exhibits some degree of control over her actions), this individual would likely have kept the account active until his or her message had been received.

Don't get me wrong ... I think that understanding the story is vital, but at this point, we have no evidence to support an itsy bitsy spider or cat's cradle reference ... and even if we did, would this knowledge lead us anywhere at this point?

Robert

**Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:44 am

Blacklight · four friends weaving a 0822162710052 spiders' web. 6:18 AM 8/6/04

Okay.. to reorganise.. the following are still unsolved..

**Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:18 pm

fog · Boot Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 23

**Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:31 pm

TJ229ER

ami in french is friend.

**Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:17 pm

fyzle · Veteran Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 104

**Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:52 pm

fog · Boot Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 23

should be simpler

**Posted:** Tue Sep 14, 2004 3:09 am

arcanadei · Decorated Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 161

I am thinking that the first set was to point us to mbox.txt or possibly the mbox.1.txt and we got a friendly nudge cause we were not getting it. No matter how I try to make that fit, it won't tho. Also, mbox has gotta be for mailbox and this was a mail correspondance and there is a mention of transferring emails to a palmtop so I figure the trail will change to that at some point but I couldn't make the URLs I tried work for that. I don't think that the number clue would spell out tolmbhe because that was info we already have and no amount of guessing would have gotten us to mbox without a clue. I am almost leaning towards these numbers not being ciphers at all at this point and we are missing something much more simple like IP addresses that fyzle mentioned.

**Posted:** Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:17 am

Chumlee · Guest

mbox & spider webs

**Posted:** Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:21 pm

5th Earth · Veteran Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 112

[edit] realized piano connection had been made to black keys comment [/edit]

I've actually been friends with at least one diagnosed multiple personality. There are two others who were not "certified" and for reasons too elaborate to go into here I'm reluctant to use that title, but there were similar aspects.

Many people have commented that if the mbox.txt author was another personality in Lucrezia, then the author would not have trouble with English. Speaking from experience this assertion is false--it is entirely possible that an alternate personality would have different language skills. Ditto for the "tapping at the window" comment--this is not a comment that would indicate AGAINST the multiple-personality theory. It doesn't support it, but it is not evidence against it. I've heard one personalty accuse another of trying to stuff his head down a garbage disposal--statements of physical interaction aren't unheard of.

Trying to crackt he codes, I've done a bunch of manipulation going into and out of binary form for both words and numbers, but no luck.

**Posted:** Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:00 am

_________________
It seemed like a good idea at the time.

Blacklight

Man.. I havn't seen code this tough since I tried to crack the LARCH code from AWARE, which caused MANY hairs to fall outta my head.

**Posted:** Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:34 pm