Return to Unfiction unforum
 a.r.g.b.b 
FAQ FAQ   Search Search 
 
Welcome!
New users, PLEASE read these forum guidelines. New posters, SEARCH before posting and read these rules before posting your killer new campaign. New players may also wish to peruse the ARG Player Tutorial.

All users must abide by the Terms of Service.
Website Restoration Project
This archiving project is a collaboration between Unfiction and Sean Stacey (SpaceBass), Brian Enigma (BrianEnigma), and Laura E. Hall (lehall) with
the Center for Immersive Arts.
Announcements
This is a static snapshot of the
Unfiction forums, as of
July 23, 2017.
This site is intended as an archive to chronicle the history of Alternate Reality Games.
  

The time now is Tue Nov 19, 2024 6:19 pm
All times are UTC - 4 (DST in action)		 View posts in this forum since last visit
View unanswered posts in this forum
Calendar
 Forum index » Archive » Archive: The Haunted Apiary (Let Op!) » The Haunted Apiary (Let Op!): General/Updates
[QUESTION] Meaning of Tsi Tian?
View previous topicView next topic
Page 1 of 2 [18 Posts]   Goto page: 1, 2 Next
Author Message
Saetia
Boot

Joined: 27 Jul 2004
Posts: 10
Location: England

 		[QUESTION] Meaning of Tsi Tian?
Does anyone know the relevance of this quote in Danas latest blog update - 'Tsi Tian, everyone. Thanks for the help and support'
Specifically the Tsi Tian thing, I googled it and found the following page -
http://www.therapeuticspiral.org/articles/ExpThpy.html
Has this any further relevance or is this just a co-incidence, the page being about consciousness, the brain and memory seems quite a co-incidence if that is the case. Although the website appears genuine and quite business like. I just wanted peoples thoughts and if they could find anything hidden on there?

EDIT: Topic. -- AnthraX101
_________________
The one they call the vision that bears the gift...

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:22 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Primus
Boot

Joined: 24 Jul 2004
Posts: 24

 		The words are Chinese, Yale romanization if I'm not completely off the mark. However, my grasp of Chinese is TERRIBLE, and none of the translators I've employed seem to work on the words.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:28 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Saetia
Boot

Joined: 27 Jul 2004
Posts: 10
Location: England

 		The fact she put it in italics and that it appears to maybe be the last 'clue' she may give us before she quits suggest to me it means something.
_________________
The one they call the vision that bears the gift...

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:31 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Shad0
I Have No Life


Joined: 20 Jun 2004
Posts: 2180
Location: Southern California, USA

 		Re: [QUESTION] Meaning of Tsi Tian?
Saetia wrote:
The fact she put it in italics and that it appears to maybe be the last 'clue' she may give us before she quits suggest to me it means something.

Or it could mean that it's a foreign language. Chinese, I'm guessing.

[PURE SPEC]Perhaps "Farewell?" "Take care?" "Safe journeys?" "So long and thanks for all the trout?" Dunno [/PURE SPEC]

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:38 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Guest
Guest


 		It's probably an odd romanization of the word 再见, meaning "goodbye" in Chinese. It can also mean "farewell."

The proper romanization using the pinyin system is zai4 jian4 .

Maybe she's working from the cantonese dialect? any cantonese speakers out there?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:39 pm
 Back to top 
Saetia
Boot

Joined: 27 Jul 2004
Posts: 10
Location: England

 		Yes yes, its me reading too much maybe, the fact shes running to china is maybe what it signifies, still that webpage kinda does make you think a bit. I'm not a techie really, maybe the source code or finding out where its registered to maybe worth a look.
_________________
The one they call the vision that bears the gift...

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:41 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Primus
Boot

Joined: 24 Jul 2004
Posts: 24

 		Got it! Reverse engineered the romanization back into Pinyin (which I'm familiar with), and figured it out. Literally, it's "Gift of Heaven". I'm betting Dana meant it along the lines of "Blessings of Heaven upon you" as a benediction or the like.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:43 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
BoogedyBoo
Boot

Joined: 17 Oct 2003
Posts: 12

 		Primus, just curious. What were the characters that you came up with? I keep seeing tsi = xi = west, tian = heaven --> the western (buddhist) paradise, but that doesn't make sense.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:10 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Primus
Boot

Joined: 24 Jul 2004
Posts: 24
BoogedyBoo wrote:
Primus, just curious. What were the characters that you came up with? I keep seeing tsi = xi = west, tian = heaven --> the western (buddhist) paradise, but that doesn't make sense.


Tsi is Ci in Pinyin, not Xi. That's prolly what's throwing you off. So you end up with Tian (Heaven) Ci (Gift). "Heaven's Gift" or "Gift of Heaven" is a little weird to end a message with, so I extrapolated that into "blessings of Heaven".

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:15 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Bellebet
Veteran

Joined: 22 Jul 2004
Posts: 87
Location: Boston, MA

 		So what area of China speaks Pinyin?
_________________
It's all about you, isn't it? Me, me, me. Put me out, I'm on fire...

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:22 pm
 View user's profile AIM Address Yahoo Messenger
 Back to top 
Primus
Boot

Joined: 24 Jul 2004
Posts: 24
Bellebet wrote:
So what area of China speaks Pinyin?


Pinyin is a romanization of Chinese. Essentially the Chinese characters converted into English phonetic words so that you can read them without knowing the characters. There are two romanizations used, Pinyin and Yale.

The dialect of Chinese used by Dana is Mandarin. Kind of the "official" version of Chinese. The main other dialect is Cantonese.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:27 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
number8
Veteran

Joined: 26 Jul 2004
Posts: 92
Location: Toronto, Canada

 		I speak Cantonese and Tsi Tian doesn't look like anything I have seen, but I don't think there is a proper way to romanize Cantaonese (and if there is I don't know it).

I am pretty sure that Tian is mandarin pinyin for heaven, sky, or day.

Tsi however I have no idea. I don't even think it's pinyin, not standard pinyin anyway.

And to tell the truth, Tsi Tian doesn't seem like a normal phrase Chinese people say to each other, so it's not just a simple "farewell" or "goodbye".
_________________
Drool problem quite interesting Drool

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:46 pm
Last edited by number8 on Tue Jul 27, 2004 5:14 pm; edited 1 time in total
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
number8
Veteran

Joined: 26 Jul 2004
Posts: 92
Location: Toronto, Canada

 		And oh, it's not Japanese or Korean either, for those that wants to know.
_________________
Drool problem quite interesting Drool

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:47 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
gheritt
Boot


Joined: 25 Jul 2004
Posts: 58
Primus wrote:
"Heaven's Gift" or "Gift of Heaven" is a little weird to end a message with, so I extrapolated that into "blessings of Heaven".


This may be way off, but "Gift of Heaven" almost sounds like something the Covenant would name one of their ships.
_________________
Gheritt White had been floating six feet off the floor for three weeks.........

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:02 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Guest
Guest


 		Numerous Pinyins
Tsi Tian or Zia Jian are two different romanization of the same phrase, good bye in Mandarin Chinese. I believe the former is the Yale variety.

In answer to an earlier post, no one speaks pinyin. It is used to help people learning the language and to some extent is used for entry of chinese characters using a western keyboard. Essentially, it is the romanization of the pictograms used to read and write Chinese. Mandarin is the main dialect of Chinese, and is the offical spoken language in China, Taiwan and Singapore. Cantonese is another dialect, and is spoken primarily in Southern China.

A side note, Dana should pick up a new phrase book before her trip to Beijing. The pinyin she is using is used more often in Taiwan than on the mainland.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:38 pm
 Back to top 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 1 of 2 [18 Posts]   Goto page: 1, 2 Next
View previous topicView next topic
 Forum index » Archive » Archive: The Haunted Apiary (Let Op!) » The Haunted Apiary (Let Op!): General/Updates
Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
You cannot post calendar events in this forum



Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group