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[Question][Spec] Sylvia Plath Poetry Yes, I am a newb. However, I searched and did not find anything on this.
After searching the web quite extensively, I came upon some qoutes from a poet named Sylvia Plath. These qoutes were quite similar to text written by both Dana, and the AI. This led me to read further.
After reading several of her poems, I am unable to ignore these similarities and thought I might ask if anyone else sees them.
Please take a look at http://www.plathonline.com/poetry.html and examine not only the titles and bodies of the poems, but also their themes. For specific references, read:
Amnesiac
The Beast
The Bee Meeting
The Detective
The Dream
Gulliver
Spider
The Swarm
Stings
Widow
I don't know if this has any significance, but it is certainly interesting. Could the dialogue of the AI be spawned not only from the e-mails it is sent, but also from documents/files Dana had stored on her hard drive, such as poems from Sylvia Plath?
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:33 am
Exige
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great research. that is really interesting. what significance would she have on this story though? ill read a biograph yon htis person, ands ee if there are any ties, any clues. good research.
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 3:07 am
Anonymous Coward
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Wikipedia article on Sylvia Plath .
Quote:
... her father, Otto, a college professor and noted authority on the subject of bees ...
Hmm.
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 5:20 am
Crzygeoff
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It seems like there may be some kind of connection there. After googling Otto Plath, I came across this: "Otto Plath's career flourished. He published the book 'Bumblebees and Their Ways' not long after Sylvia's birth."
Now, I'm serious noob, and I would have no idea what the connection would actually be/mean, but it's certainly interesting nonetheless, especially in light of the poems that obviously have quite a lot in common with the characters/themes we've been seeing in the game thus far.
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:00 am
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I really thing you're on to something ...
Quote:
Widow. The bitter spider sits
And sits in the center of her loveless spokes.
Death is the dress she wears, her hat and collar.
The moth-face of her husband, moonwhite and ill,
Circles her like a prey she'd love to kill
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:27 am
Crzygeoff
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Unfortunately, this thread (as of yet) isn't getting the attention I think it deserves. Maybe it should have been posted in puzzles? I don't know, I'm a noob.
Geoff
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:45 am
BoonIsha
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good work interested guest...amazing actually...
might i recommend getting on #beekeepers tonight to see what comes up? love to hear some more from you
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:09 am
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Cool Stuff I definitely think this could be useful... at the least it may be a source of inspiration for the PMs (knowing Bungie's taste in literature). I think the question is whether there's anything there that's really useful in an "in-game" sense. The "Plath Connection" should probably be added to the ilovebees wiki somewhere.
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:11 am
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Interested Guest, please register here! Just one find like this (whether it means something or not) is important, and your research and such is valued here. Of course, you don't have to join, but I think it's unanimous here, that this is the kind of thinking that's needed more.
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:22 am
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No need to start a puzzle thread as yet, but you are right this is really interesting spec. Perhaps Dana was a fan and had a lot of poetry on her computer. Keep noodling it and see where it takes you!
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:24 am
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Excellent work! I'll go along with the motion to invite you in as a full member... we need input like yours.
-- Steve'll be reading some Plath poetry when he gets home tonight.
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:28 am
cpip
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Wasn't Sylvia Plath the author of the Bell Jar, one of the classic novels about depression?
Certainly, Dana seems to have evinced some symptoms of depression...
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:10 am
Anonymous Coward
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For what it's worth, I've sent copies of the 'Widow' and 'Spider' poems off to ladybee777SPLAT hotmail.com - my last attempt at communication with verse was quite successful, anyhow.
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:13 am
hamatoyoshi
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Until this showed up in Puzzles, I entirely ignored this thread because I dislike the poetry of Sylvia Plath.
It's too whiny and self-loathing for me.
While it seems unrelated as of yet, I bet you guys researching it know that she killed herself in 1963 by wrapping her head in a cloth and putting her head in a gas oven.
I just did a Google on that. Of note, but probably entirely irrelevant, she made her first attempt to kill herself on August 24, 1953.
http://www.neuroticpoets.com/plath/
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:18 am
jellyfish_green
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I fired off a copy of Plath's "Poem for a Birthday", myself. Maybe she wants pictures too?
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:24 am
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