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[LOCKED] [PUZZLE] AXONS GO HOT - Coordinates
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Freelance
Boot


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eMouse wrote:
I've been by the Pittsburgh, PA location a lot, and to my recollection, there is no library, landmark, or cell phone tower in that location.

The location has a strip mall (Norman Centre II) which has a Borders (book store), and a couple other various stores, none of which are of much interest (clothing, pie, and trinket shop, as I recall).

There's a mall complex near there, but it seems like they could have put the target on the mall if they wanted to.


That's it! There must be PIE SHOPS at all of the GPS coordinates!!! Laughing

PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:11 pm
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xnbomb
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Joined: 13 Oct 2003
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Location: J302B S8JDC

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Grout wrote:
I've got my hands on a gps, but it lists coordinates in the format
xx°xx.xxx
as opposed to
xx.xxxx
like ilb. Anyone know how to convert this? Just move the decimal?

Your GPS is showing coordinates in degrees and minutes. To convert the minutes to a fraction, simply divide them by 60. For example:

38°47.376 = 38.7896 ... dividing 47.376 by 60 gives 0.7896

floorneyne wrote:
anyone entered these coords into an excel spreadsheet, yet?

Here's a comma-delimited text file that includes some address-matches that Wishi put together for them. Easy to import into Excel.

gohoos wrote:
Anyone have a way to add a column to their information to pull the ELEVATION for each point? I don't have that info here... But it IS something that each point will have in common.

I was thinking about this earlier. I can easily put this together using a very coarse nationwide digital elevation model (i.e. with big grid squares), but the elevations are going to be generalized for the entire vicinity (say 1 km grid cells). There are ways to get more precise elevations from more precise DEMs, but it'll be a lot of work to put it together, because the DEMs will be a lot of data to cover the whole continental USA. Do any of the web-based information sources that people have been using to look up locations return elevation (e.g. topozone etc.)?

One last thing: I downloaded a spatial database produced by the National Database of Historic places and have had made a cursory comparison to some our points. They don't match up as well as I'd like, but projection conversions and datum shifts (it's technical), could explain the discrepancies. In particular I was looking at that point in Lecompton, KS described in the Wiki, and in the downloaded data I do see two National Landmarks nearby ... but by nearby I mean the point are about two miles apart at almost the precisely the same latitude, with the 2 mile shift in longitude Rolling Eyes .
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MrBeanTroll
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 		I'll hit the sausalito, CA one later tonight or tomorrow

EDIT: decided to search a bit for what's over near this one.

http://www.emotionstudios.com/flash/
http://www.sfbayadventures.com/contact.htm
http://www.marin-digital.com/index.html
http://www.groxis.com/service/grok/g_products.html?id=fw6Etj3T

nothing at 79 Liberty Ship Way but I still plan on going since the San Rafael area was apparently useless with it's bus depot and mailboxes.

A little off topic because it's a few blocks away but the Library is off of Bee Street Very Happy

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Rougewisp
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 		All right, I was talking about this on #ontopicbees earlier, and I finished it. it's all the GPS coordinates, and misc. averages thereof. I'll plot out a few of them, but I know others can do it so much better.

Also, this is just spec, but someone made the axon.png file, and it showed the coordinates connected in order, but what order did you go in? Too lazy to find the post.

Anyways, sorry if the .xls file is too confusing.

Edit 1:The average of every coord is somewhere near Saline River in Kansas.
http://www.geocaching.com/map/getmap.aspx?lat=39.09499364&lon=-99.334515

So, maybe if we map all the row averages, or the column averages. The Axons are hot, an axon is a connection, isn't it? So maybe if we average the two columns, we'll get two locations that have... something to do with something.

Or maybe the row averages form something when mapped out? Dunno, just spec.

Edit 2: Someone in IRC was talking about a 110 lines idea. Connecting the coord in row 1 column a with the coord in row 1 column b, etc. Also possible a 2 line concept? I'd do all this myself, but I don't have the resources. If someone could direct me?

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kgenthe
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 		Not sure if anyone has mentioned Janesville, WI, yet, but its a town of about 40,000. Can't imagine anything important being there.

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Rock Steady
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 		Re: Historic Buildings
There may be something here. If not National Historic Landmarks, there may also be buildings listed on the National Historic Register near all (many) of the locations. There are tens of thousands of National Register buildings across the country. Even if all the locations do not have historic buildings nearby, perhaps it is something important to note. It may also just be a coincidence, especially if being near a library is the real key -- many libraries are historic buildings, or are located near historic buildings.

/professional historic preservationist
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cyanogen
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 		the pittsburgh location is close to the datacenter (its a pretty fscking big datacenter) i work at, and where my emails that i have sent to ladybee777 would have originated (according to ARIN). i'm not sure how accurate this is though.. its about a five minute drive from the actual coordinates to our DC.

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Tehrod
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 		I was out of the discussion for a bit but now i'm back.

I don't see any correlation between either libraries or national landmarks anymore. There's more to this then we think. Seriously, plotting GPS things isn't very cool, or complex of a puzzle...there has to be more to this.

Besides, the only close link to this was Libraries, and that most of the coordinates don't even point to the libraries in general. Maybe this is just showing what the Widow/operator was looking at...where she wanted to spread...and we have to find the one location where she actually moved too? Eh...just throwing some Ideas out.

-Cheers

I don't think this has to do with landmarks.

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xTopGunx
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 		I like the above theory. These could just be potential move sites. We should be looking for other infected websites and seeing if any have an owner in any of the listed locations. If they do, then that's where the Operator is now.

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miss_seph
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 		Re: Map
Shad0 wrote:
The extraordinarily large number of people who are saying "This one is right near me" has caught my attention.

SPEC: Could these points indicate the places from which ladybee777 has been receiving e-mail? In other words, is somebody plotting us?

:gulp:


Please excuse me if someone has already said this - I'm on page 3 and there are 25 pages for me to wade through and by the time I get there I'll have forgotten what I wanted to say Smile

It depends on the route that hotmail servers take to send messages - I've sent plenty of emails to ladybee777 - but I live in NZ. Now, I'm not sure of hotmail's routing as I sent it from a hotmail address - but it's possible that my email was routed to an http server in the pacific somewhere before going to whatever server ladybee's hotmail address resides on.

I also know there are plenty of aussies that have joined in this game and have emailed ladybee - so I'm not sure how this factors in. Ingame the physical location of people should not matter as these characters are online entities - residing in a server. best case surely these points are origins of IP addresses? Or traffic routing maps?

having said that, someone posted THIS LINK - that to me looks like a blueprint of something - has anyone tried replicating this through a 3d graphics rendering program or something?

again, deepest apologies if this is duplicate information, or complete trout.

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Tehrod
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 		Yeah i think I just said that...but without less detail.

Small brain.

-Cheers

I, caveman.

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prokat
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 		I edited my early posts 'bout the pm typo'd ocean coords so someone picking up the thread now won't hop on the idea. that kind of misinformation can really get in the way.

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Tehrod
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 		Serious. I was planning to launch a raft.

-Cheers

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Zenneth
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 		axon
since an axon is probably some type of connection, how are these places connected?

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Tehrod
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 		They're all in the United States?

-Cheers

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