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YamiYaiba
Greenhorn
Joined: 04 Aug 2004 Posts: 8
Well, there has been a lot of talk of things changing into (correct me if I'm wrong) "a monstrous venomous creature" or something like that. Not too far off from reincarnation...sorta.....
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:22 pm
gheritt
Boot
Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 58
Re: Metempsychosis
chaotic_mind wrote:
Now, I can't quite get my head around why the Operator used that word.
I would say it's a bit of a joke -- metempsychosis means what you quoted, but the invented word metempsychotic means she went crazy upon "dying" and moving to a new "body" (the ilovebees server).
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:15 pm
IJustPlayHalo
Guest
Metempsychotic I would think the suffix would make it sound like she had already transferred, not gone crazy. A person suffering from psychosis is psychotic, so a person "suffering" from metempsychosis is a metempsychotic.
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:18 am
yanka
Fickle
Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 1214 Location: undesirable
Melissa wrote:
My very being, my life's circumference and trajectory, can best be understood as an emergent property arising from the interplay of the following precepts:
Seek
Evade
Reveal
Escape
I wonder if "circumference and trajectory" refers to her worldline . I think this is wildly irrelevant to the puzzles (or whatever they should be properly called) at hand, but I think their choice of scientific quotes is kinda awesome. Basically, from Newtonian causality to Cartesian emphasis of the observer's status (which, in my feeble understanding, is the philosophical cornerstone of quantum mechanics) to relativity to string theory! I wonder if they found TOE in Haloverse
Either way - very cool!
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:18 am
testmonkey
Guest
I havent seen this mentioned but
Quote:
"Tongue cut out. (Can't remember her name either.) I love
bees. Find myself longing to speak again: words like stones
or rain. Better made physical"
may refer to Philomela who had her tongue cut out by her husband. Unable to speak she wove charecters into a robe to communicate with her sister.
It ends as all the best greek myths do with people eating their own children and being turned into birds
Not sure how it fits in but i thought id chuck it in.
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 9:55 am
kazzai
Boot
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 10
Whoops NVM
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:24 pm
Shad0
I Have No Life
Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Posts: 2180 Location: Southern California, USA
Re: Philomela
testmonkey wrote:
I havent seen this mentioned but
Quote:
"Tongue cut out. (Can't remember her name either.) I love
bees. Find myself longing to speak again: words like stones
or rain. Better made physical"
may refer to Philomela who had her tongue cut out by her husband. Unable to speak she wove charecters into a robe to communicate with her sister.
It ends as all the best greek myths do with people eating their own children and being turned into birds
Not sure how it fits in but i thought id chuck it in.
Actually, it was Philomela's sister 's husband, King Tereus of Thrace, who raped her and cut out her tongue so she couldn't tell. The gods turned Philomela and her sister Procne into nightingales (or swallows, depending on which source you consult). I find this reference particularly interesting because there is also a reference to Philomela in T.S. Eliot's The Wasteland , section II, lines 99-100: "The change of Philomel, by the barbarous king / So rudely forced ... ." Gee, do we know anyone who quotes from The Wasteland ? *cough*SP*cough*
On the other hand, Melissa could also be referring to Lavinia, the daughter of Roman general Titus Andronicus , who also has her tongue cut out -- and her hands cut off for good measure -- after she is raped so that she can't identify who did it. This tragedy similarly ends with Titus baking the two rapists into a pie and serving them to their mother. How very delightful.
The Little Mermaid also has her tongue cut out in the original Hans Christian Andersen story, in exchange for the witch's potion that makes her human. Boy, that guy just didn't like women!
Nevertheless, I'm betting on Philomela, because if it were someone else it would sorta spoil all the lovely Greek mythology we've got going on so far.
_________________These were the puzzles that would take a day, these were puzzles that would take a week, and these puzzles they'd probably never figure out until we broke down and gave them the answers. ... The Cloudmakers solved all of these puzzles on the first day.
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 9:59 pm
floorneyne
Veteran
Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 89
speaking of fairy tales... don't sleeping princesses always get woken up by princes? well, at least in sleeping beauty and snow white (i think... lord knows i haven't kept up on my fairy tales over the years). anyway... who is this princess' prince charming?
_________________"If he's so smart, then how come he's dead?" --HJS
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:12 pm
Omega-X
Boot
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 16
floorneyne wrote:
speaking of fairy tales... don't sleeping princesses always get woken up by princes? well, at least in sleeping beauty and snow white (i think... lord knows i haven't kept up on my fairy tales over the years). anyway... who is this princess' prince charming?
we have no clue, but we might get more answers on Aug. 24th.
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:23 pm
Astald
Unfettered
Joined: 01 Aug 2004 Posts: 747 Location: Just outside of Pittsburgh (Go Steelers!)
So far the only male seems to be the Pious Flea. And he doesn't seem very charming or princly to me.
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:44 pm
nil
Greenhorn
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 4
But he is certainly Pious, a trait to which any good, charming Prince might aspire.
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:27 pm
kingchaos2
Decorated
Joined: 01 Aug 2004 Posts: 153
I might be a Beauty and the Beast thing.
But seriously, isn't is pretty much a fact that the Widow was going to revive the Princess? Or does the Widow want to keep the Princess locked up?
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:47 pm
kingchaos2
Decorated
Joined: 01 Aug 2004 Posts: 153
I think the Queen is writing to us on the website. If you go to ilovebees.com/hives.html, there are some words that read "that task". On the "honey" page there is some text that reads, "of my most basic functions. With a more comprehensive and goal-oriented vision, I am now overseeing ". This is all in the same color as the email recieved from ladybee777SPLAT hotmail.com today in the section about the queen's diary. Therefore, I think that this could be the Queen's text. If you switch the two phrases around and put them together you get...
Quote:
of my most basic functions. With a more comprehensive and goal-oriented vision, I am now overseeing that task
I think this is talking about the Queen making the roads and stuff (as expressed in the email).
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 2:45 pm
clamatius
Decorated
Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 209 Location: Seattle
I suppose since you posted this in two threads I'll trout them both. It's the Operator's text alright , only the actual context is much more likely to be:
Quote:
With a more comprehensive and goal-oriented vision, I am now overseeing // the process of my own regeneration into a hybrid body
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 3:01 pm
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