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[thebruce]

rowan, take a look at my sig - it's got everything found from the game in one page... very handy resource

[rowan]

[thebruce]

could you humour us and let us know what exactly you want to do with the raw html files? the only purpose to the text snippets is to piece together the monologues as with numerous other characters and situations... having the raw html files (too numerous to think of - as in, 1 or 2 partial sentences per page for each monologue) I can't see leading anywhere productive beyond what's already found...
just out of curiosity of course...

[Shad0]

Re: REQUEST: Source Files Wanted

[rowan]

[thebruce]

so ya, are you actually looking for the physical raw pages? or just a listing of the snips and what pages they were found on? cuz ya, the latter is within the wiki... I don't believe anyone has saved copies of every version of the raw html files from the website... or maybe only a couple people who have actually archived the entire site and every iteration and version, but I haven't seen any or heard of anyone...

[rowan]

[thebruce]

[Ceantari]

There's something I've noticed with a memory of Melissa's. It can be found here: http://qube.netninja.com/beewiki/LinksOnFunStuffPage ; it's under 'Final Solution'.

["Humor me," the Castaway said, playing : music in his room, ancient music, Jazz and Swing, : all in the mood. "Melissa", he said, "Have a drink with me". : I don't drink, but I asked for something anyway and sat, : holographically, and drank with him. He wasn't : regular crew, just along for the ride. We picked him up in : deep space, where he deployed Buoys, sending out waves of sound : to confuse the Enemy. A man that : seemed noble, classical and pure. A sailor with : Odysseus. He told stories about soldiers caught : waist deep in water, facing the enemy, their backs to : the Sea. "Melissa", he called me Melissa, never : used my nickname, "It's a sad thing I'm married, : You could break my heart". The weather was stormy, scratched vinyl and : all of us, a long way from home: I felt real. ]

The quote "You could break my heart" reminded me of the quote in the 'pillow.wav'.

MP: "... she's human."
FRANK: "Holy-! That's Jan."
MP: "Who the hell is Jan?"
FRANK: "Jan James - the local 'Heartbreaker' at my son's high school..."
MP: "Dwane knows this girl?!"
FRANK: "'Knows her'? He's got a picture of her under his pillow."

Even in 'durga.wav', there's a reference to the 'Heartbreaker'...

JERSEY: "Uh, let's try someone else... Let's try: Jan Janes - fourth floor of this building."
DURGA: "Janissary James - seventeen. Father: James.."
(skips some)
JERSEY: "Leave it then. Give me more on Jan."
DURGA: "What do you want to know?"
JERSEY: "Um... Can you get pictures?"
DURGA: "I can do better than that."

Apparently, Janissary James is an 'eye-catcher' to the young guys in this universe... and a renowned "Heartbreaker". 'Cuz even Melissa's avatar is quite attractive too. I wonder if there's any connection...

[BrianV1]

I don't know if Melissa is the same as Durga, because Durga seems to know everything about everyone, but still referred to that guy as" The Castaway." But Durga knows him as Jersey's father. Assuming Jersey's father is in fact the castaway, maybe Melissa and Durga aren't the same, but maybe Durga is another version, or copy, of Melissa, sent to Jersey by his father, for some reason that we will later find out? All spec of course.

[JimmyJames]

I've been thinking about this one the past couple of days, and I have some spec regarding these issues.

First is in reply to the previous post by Ceantari. Now this is assuming a few things that pretty much rely on this all being Halo related. What if Dana's decendant is Jan James, and either Jan, or one of her decendants had their mind downloaded to become the AI we know as Melissa. Now in the future (Melissa's time) there is a problem. Using AI technology they travel back to Melissa's source to rectify the problem (the Axon files). However, they cannot rectify the problem at that time, so they travel back further, to connect with Dana. Unfortunately, they "crash" onto Dana's server, corrupting all the programs

(This I still don't understand as it would seem this is something physical, like a ship. So how did it "crash" onto her server? Could it be an electronic transmission, which doesn't entirely make sense either.) Anyways...

The package contained a backup copy of Melissa, which is the Princess (Queen's daughter/offspring) which was to be released in case something went wrong with Melissa, which happened when a virus contained in the package was reconstructed and took command of Melissa due to her being only partially congnisent when the virus "attacked".

Second part of the spec is about the castaway. I'm not sure if it's the virus or not, but the box they found is definitely forerunner technology.

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[JimmyJames]

That would make sense in that only the programs were sent back, while all the crew died. I guess I would have to question why the forerunners would lock up a useful tool, such as a time travel crystal, and jetison it into space? Not saying you're off track, just wondering.

I haven't read the Halo novels yet, so pardon my ignorance, but how do these crystals work? Can they be made to send something to a specific time? I know this is OT a bit, but not much more OT than the whole AI cloning dispute.


In addition to my previous post... Thinking over it again, it is possible that Melissa is not tied to Dana and Jan, but at this time, it is my belief that Jan is Dana's offspring descendant.

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[JimmyJames]

Sorry, I thought the time travel thing was pretty much a given as Melissa is definitely from the future, as demonstrated in her complaints about the archaic system she's trapped in during phase II and her memories of definitively future events.

While I'm getting on-board with the crystal theory, it kinda blows my theory out of the water, since the time travel would be random. I was looking at another thread that specs Jan is a Spartan III which would also kill my theories. Oh well!