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[PUZZLE] AXONS GO HOT: Encrypted Message
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usernameguy
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It's up

It's up, under a page called "GPS Corrected Addresses": http://bees.netninja.com/wiki/index.php?title=GPS_Corrected_Addresses

I don't have Excel! Otherwise I'd use your .xls. Sounds like a good idea. I imitated Wishi-San's format instead.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 12:46 am
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SgtSnookams
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I have't looked into it, but...

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/files/thing-thing_01.jpg

the left side map looks like an arrow. I'll take a look at a world map in a bit, will see if it points to anything of importance.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 3:38 am
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fivecentfamily
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Re: The points come in groups

usernameguy wrote:
Unfortunately, it is hell of a lot of work to figure out online what exactly is on a set of GPS coordinates. You gotta map it on Mapquest, try out an address, see where it lands, make sure you're on the right side of the street, maybe try using the cross street, look at TerraServer, do a reverse Yellow Page lookup, take a guess at the number...it's a real pain.


Try using this site instead: www.terrafly.com. It gives you everything you could POSSIBLY want to know about each location, and a nice detailed satelite picture. It even tells you what business are in the area, and how far from the coord they are. I used it to get the info for the two Phoenix coords. My finds are posted on the Wiki.

Happy hunting.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:16 am
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Checksum
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I don't want to stop anyone who wants to pursue the idea that the digits of the coords are a code. However, I don't think they are a code for this reason: they're all in the US.

If I wanted to encode a message in digits and decided that those digits would be disguised as GPS coords, it would be a lot more difficult to encode the message in digits and then find GPS coords that match the digits, having all the coords fall inside the US. More likely they'd be all over the world (or invalid coordinates that don't fit anywhere on the planet, modulus operations aside). Moreover, why would I care that all the coordinates fit in the US, if it's just an encoded message?

This doesn't rule out the possibility that the digits are an encoded message, but it might help us focus our search efforts on more fruitful paths.

-Checksum

PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:39 am
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BYTE-Smasher_logintrouble
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(possible trout)
has anyone tried connecting the dots with only the coords that are displayed beside each other on the table?

coord1 coord5
coord2 coord6
coord3 coord7
coord4 coord8

example: coord1-coord5, coord2-coord6, coord3-coord7, coord4-coord8 ?? may turn up something

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sherpa
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Checksum wrote:
Moreover, why would I care that all the coordinates fit in the US, if it's just an encoded message?


Because you want to waste a lot of game players' time on a red herring? Smile

Byte-smasher: yes. And no, before you ask. Wink I'm pretty sure there's a US overlay somewhere, if you search.
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SpghEddy
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Checksum wrote:
I don't want to stop anyone who wants to pursue the idea that the digits of the coords are a code. However, I don't think they are a code for this reason: they're all in the US.


It's easy to make a code and still have all the coords in the US. A simple one, for example, would be to use the first letter of the street for each coordinate to form a message. You could then put your coordinates in *any* city, and still have a large portion of the alphabet available for you.

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Drakenul
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(possible trout I think)

Has anybody checked what points of interest are within a few minutes drive time (within about 5 I'd say) of where the coordinates point to. I was checking out the one in MI, the closest one to me, and found it's extremely close to the U of Michigan's football stadium, about two or three major intersections north on the road that runs up its west side. It's pretty late for me, so I haven't made similar searches for the more remote (again for me) coords, so I may have a junk theory, but that's the nature of the game, eh?

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slk295
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I dont think that strategy is very viable because if u consider all the landmarks in the vicinity of the sears towers for example there are way too may of them to consider, within only minutes. So I think its much more plausable to look at the immediate areas around our points.[/quote]

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sherpa
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Plus, the co-ordinates are very precise, suggesting that widening the field by removing that accuracy isn't worthwhile. At any rate, please put that in the Axons: Relative thread Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:14 am
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tomdom69
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well the original coordinate for milwaukee was...61st and north...

now its 88th and north at 5:35 pm our time.

so i think there is gunna be a van driving around giving out demos.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:05 am
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twofivefour
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Came up with this one while at work today (seeing as I'm in Australia):

Try the left column to right column axons overlaid on the US map, but do them in groups. Specifically:
A. 6:07 - 6:11 to 8:55 - 8:59
B. 9:02 - 9:05 to 10:56 - 10:59
C. 11:08 - 11:11 to 14:56 - 14:59
D. 15:03 - 15:07 to 17:59 - 18:03

These groups are significant. A and D are comprised solely of 4 minute intervals, while B and C are solely 3 minute intervals.
You may notice I left out the 4 minute interval between B and C. I think that's intentionally there to break up the two groups.

This is just a theory, though, and I have no way of testing it myself at this moment.

And in case you're wondering, that's a total of 104 axons.

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ttimothy
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We need an animated gif or movie with all each gps location lighted up in sequence one by one according to the time for each point. Can anyone do this? Currently we only have a picture with all the lines drawn at the same time.

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SixByNine
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ttimothy wrote:
We need an animated gif or movie with all each gps location lighted up in sequence one by one according to the time for each point. Can anyone do this? Currently we only have a picture with all the lines drawn at the same time.


That would cirtainly be useful...

I checked out and as I said in a previous thread your group A is pretty much all northern US, group D is pretty much southern US and B and C are fairly random, both pretty much cover the whole of the US


Crap I think I got the lat/long the wrong way round! It's eastern/western not northern/southern

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msekolpsu
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The number of coordinates is 210 and is the product of the first 5 primes - 1, 2, 3, 5, 7.

Does anyone have a spreadsheet with the distances between calculated out yet?

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