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[PUZZLE? ILB.com:] Stegged pictures?
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cyanogen
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[PUZZLE? ILB.com:] Stegged pictures?

this might be interesting:

shade@eris www.ilovebees.com $ stegdetect *.jpg
bee2_margaretphoto.jpg : jphide(***)
bee_garden.jpg : negative
chloe.jpg : negative
dana.jpg : negative
danadress.jpg : negative
danapicnic.jpg : negative
farnsworth-window.jpg : negative
figure.jpg : negative
groupofjars.jpg : negative
margaret.jpg : negative
margarets_market.jpg : negative
smoker.jpg : negative

no luck yet on cracking bee2_margretphoto.jpg.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 6:11 pm
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LilSerf
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Translation:
The stegdetect software package, intended for detecting steganographic (hidden message) content inserted in images, was run on all these files.

bee2_margaretphoto.jpg was found to contain steganographic content in a form used by the steganography program JPHIDE.

We don't know what the content is, though.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 7:06 pm
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Fraxxxi
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LilSerf wrote:
Translation:
The stegdetect software package, intended for detecting steganographic (hidden message) content inserted in images, was run on all these files.

bee2_margaretphoto.jpg was found to contain steganographic content in a form used by the steganography program JPHIDE.

We don't know what the content is, though.
thank you very much Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 7:12 pm
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LilSerf
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So, anyone have any brilliant thoughts for the passphrase?
I've downloaded JPHIDE/JPSEEK but haven't come up with a passphrase that works yet.

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Fraxxxi
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LilSerf wrote:
So, anyone have any brilliant thoughts for the passphrase?
I've downloaded JPHIDE/JPSEEK but haven't come up with a passphrase that works yet.
farnsworth, pam(ela), decker, seven, se7en, tru7h, p925, pearl...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 7:26 pm
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LilSerf
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nope, got nothing on all those. I've also done a bunch of queen/Queen, widow/Widow, etc. SPDR's another one i tried.

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hotblack
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I don't have JPHIDE/JPSEEK but have just compiled stegdetect and stegbrea and outguess, perhaps using the story as a wordlist may give us some joy, I'll give it a go ASAP. Props to finding this, I looked through the images I had and found nothing.

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Jamesē
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I once read of this idea for coding messages into pictures, if one takes about 2 lines of the picture (each about one pixel) and converts it to either 1 or 2 bit text, and then decode for those of use who can't read binary, you may find something.

I've searched about this and found nothing (Maybe I'm not searching for the right thing) For those of you wondering where I read this it would be in one of the best books ever written, Ender's Game. It would be a lot of trouble to do the encoding, and also a lot for the decoding, but it could be done, I've not seen many of the pictures, but there does not seem to be anything of that sort in them, but taking the individual pixels and modifying them to distort the picture and create messages with bits and such, I'm not that good with this method, but I've seen one person do it before (after reading the book) and found it a great way to hid text.

I doubt someone would go through that much trouble to hid a message, but then again look at the situation. Anything could be possible, and I'm sure that I've gotten some of the details wrong, but if anyone could help me out here if they knew what I aws talking about that would be great.

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cyanogen
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i'm currently running stegbreak on this image using a word list of almost 3 million words (including the stuff from the wiki). its only at 8% so far- this is going to take awhile.

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LilSerf
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Cool, I'm continuing to come up with random stuff to enter on my own. Maybe stegbreak can shed some light, we'll see.

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rasmus
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I have run stegbreak with the complete text of the cortana letters and the halo story from HBO, and found nothing. Now on to the wiki.

By the way, it could be a good idea to rewrite the rules.ini file in order to change the words a little when cracking. Maybe add a 7 or three...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 7:49 pm
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cyanogen
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another interesting note-

reloading this page will yield at least 3 different images, the potentially stegged image (that reports as 3 stars in stegdetect), and two altered images that contain the text:

"her most trusted servants"
and
"new eyes and ears she cut from those who had been"

that we already know is part of the original story.

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Fraxxxi
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cyanogen wrote:
i'm currently running stegbreak on this image using a word list of almost 3 million words (including the stuff from the wiki). its only at 8% so far- this is going to take awhile.
I have copied all the text from ilovebees.com (original and hacked) in a txt and tried that, only took it two seconds anyway, but no dice.
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LilSerf
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Another tie-in: check out this Mayday text snippet:

Quote:
MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY
Getting muddled here. Sick, obviously.
Broken inside. Not thinking straight.

Got to go back to first principles.

Survive evade reveal escape.

Survive-well, I'm not dead yet.
Evade-don't want to evade. I want to be FOUND.

...unless...

...of course, if I am behind enemy lines, then constantly shouting for help wouldn't be the smartest play in the world, would it?

got to run silent. got to run deep.

hide and go seek


"Hide and go seek" seems like a big reference to JPHIDE/JPSEEK to me.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:04 pm
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hotblack
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Yerp, I created a wordlist (using a perl script) from the "MayDay" "Computer" and "Corupted Image" texts, used that as the dictionary for stegbreak, and nothing.
I'm past 50% on a complete dictionary test though. I'll create some word lists from other related sources (literary could be good, especially as we hav gutenberg) and give them a go too. Here's hoping we're not all chasing a false positive! ;)

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