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flex12321 · Boot Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Posts: 15

[SPEC] Bloodhands pictures

**Posted:** Tue Jul 27, 2004 12:11 pm

Simulacra

The are the same. Either the site has faked "patient art" or the patients had access to Photoshop and the photo of the bloody hands.

It also looks like it's the same colour as in the blood painting dream.

**Posted:** Tue Jul 27, 2004 12:24 pm

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CubistPoet · Boot Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 29

Or one of the patients was a talented enough artist to do a semi-photo-realistic adaptation of something that he/she saw at CMH.

**Posted:** Tue Jul 27, 2004 10:47 pm

Primitive · Boot Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 16

The thing I wonder about is the timing... I'm not sure when this hospital last held patients, but presumably Jim Doe drew that while the hospital was still open. Did the hospital close before that picture was taken? Why would an active hospital with patients leave up bloody hands for patients to draw? I emailed Charles to try and find out more about the timing of those 2 pics.

Another thing: Look at the top left corner of the picture. Looks like a weird smear or something. I couldn't read anything there... does steg leave a visible trace? Nothing ascii in the file.

Having opened them both in an editor now, those two pics line up perfectly. I think Jim drew his picture from that photo, unless something really spooky is going on.

**Posted:** Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:27 am

RobMagus

Steg does not leave a visible trace, according to the steg page here on UF.

**Posted:** Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:42 am

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Samnite · Kilroy Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 2

Actually, steg can leave a visible trace. It's usually not something in the picture, though, as much as it is just the general appearance of a poor resolution picture.

**Posted:** Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:08 am

mmdoogie

It looks to me an awful lot like someone did an edge-enhance operator
in some photo editing software...

I tried it earlier, but I was only using The GIMP. Someone with Paint Shop
or Photoshop may want to try this...

--mrm

**Posted:** Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:22 am

konamouse

Another bothersome detail.
As in the issue with 'beatrice doe', 'jim doe' isn't usual for the unnamed, it's suppose to be 'john doe'. Now, I tried looking at the signiture upside down and i get 'aop wll' (not 'ann wil').
I'm still for the idea that we are meant to look at this picture up close.

**Posted:** Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:50 am

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CubistPoet · Boot Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 29

I examined the two in Photoshop, overlaying them and changing the opacity, and clearly nothing has been added to the patient picture aside from the signature.

The j, upon close examination, doesn't appear to be a j at all. It is actually LESS curved than the i. So what we are left with is either "iim doe" or just plain "im doe" or perhaps something else that's harder to define.

"im doe" is relatively close to "i'm dead". Perhaps another picture from our friend Ann whose pyschic experiences might explain the perfect recreation of the blood-handed doors?

**Posted:** Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:59 am

Dawn · Greenhorn Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 3

i've also noticed that the J and E are of different sizes than the IM and DO. it looks very intentional, especially since the middle letters are so uniform in size and writing style.

**Posted:** Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:30 am

aiesha_anonymous · Veteran Joined: 18 Jun 2003 Posts: 101 Location: Australia

**Posted:** Fri Jul 30, 2004 2:52 am

toms1234 · Greenhorn Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 8

Also, a bit of translation of the name if you flip it horizontally (i.e. look at it in a mirror) the name appears to spell 'gob mij' or 'gob mii'

**Posted:** Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:34 am

The Watcher · Unfettered Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 493

This is just a guess, but I'll put it in spoiler tags anyways.

**Posted:** Fri Jul 30, 2004 1:01 pm

The Watcher · Unfettered Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 493

Message in Bloody Hands!!!

**Posted:** Fri Jul 30, 2004 1:09 pm

Wishi-san

That's great Watcher.

Tried filtering and looking at yours myself but couldn't make out anything particularly convincing. A stupidly shaped T and what looked like a P or an elongated E.

**Posted:** Fri Jul 30, 2004 1:39 pm

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