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LadyCatra
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Joined: 16 Aug 2004
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 		Looking for help hiding from IP traces...
Hi all - I'm looking for a bit of assistance here.
I'm sorry if it's been posted before: I did a quick search but didn't quite find what I was looking for...

Okay here goes: as a "present" to my husband a group of us are planning a suprise party and are going to hide the invite into a small ARG (he gets hooked easily) Smile

My biggest problem is hiding our id from him while this is going on. We've registered a domain and webspace with Domains By Proxy (I think that was the right thing to do) and will be using the mail server there.

What I need to do is hide the X-TrueSenderIP and any other headers that he might be able to trace back to either our computer at home or my office. I know for a fact that he (a) displays these headers on email by default and (b) he tends to do a trace or something "just in case there's a clue there".

** The webserver is NOT on any machine I own - I don't know if that makes a difference or not. Sorry if I sound n00bish, but I'm used to web design not the integration part of it Smile

The 5 characters in this little game have Yahoo and Hotmail emails as well, but I won't be sending any emails out through those accounts unless there is a way to "fudge" the headers there too.

Could anyone help me hide this? I saw a post about some programs that bounce traces back to the hosted IP instead but I'm unclear of what I need to get and/or what to setup on the webserver. Sad

Any help would be appreciated - either a public post or private email. Thanks in advance!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:56 am
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jchillerup
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 		I could upload it for you. PM me for mail addy.

If you want to upload it yourself, try an open proxy, level 3 or 4.
http://www.openproxies.com/
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LadyCatra
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 		TY - but still not quite IT :)
A VERY big THANKS to jchillerup for the post and subsequent emails (some great lead there for me) - but I still haven't found what I'm looking for (*hums a little U2 to herself*)

Maybe I could clarify Smile If I send an email from Hotmail or Yahoo, what shows up in the header two things: that it came from hotmail AND that it came from hotmail THROUGH whatever computer I typed on (see below)

Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:48:04 -0700

Received: from 209.183.151.182 by by22fd.bay22.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP;Thu, 23 Sep 2004 19:47:07 GMT

X-Originating-IP: [209.183.151.182]

These are in the headers of any email I send out from my computer at work 209.183... so my problem is that husband would either double check or trace that IP and would link it back to "me" - thus defeating the whole purpose of the ARG in this case.

This may relate directly to BriEnigma's Post ... the most obvious way around this problem is "don't use a computer at work or at home" - but IS there a way to trick the server to put the "wrong" header information into the email?

Thanks for all your help (or for reading my post at least) Laughing [/url]

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 4:10 pm
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vpisteve
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 		Send an email from a Gmail account. It obfuscates the originating IP. If you need an invite, I just may be able to find one for you. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 4:53 pm
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LadyCatra
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Thanks vpisteve.

This may be the best route to go. I was hoping orginally to have email accounts for the "characters" based on the faux website: lalalaSPLATmyARGdomain.com...but having them at GMAIL wouldn't be too far a stretch from the planned story line. I'll play with this a bit (jchillerup had the same suggestion) - I have invites lying around, but thanks!!! This really is a great community Smile

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SpaceBass
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 		If you have shell access to your domain host, you may be able to use the PINE email program to send your mails from the domain account. As I recall, it doesn't show any originating IP save the one the domain is hosted on. You are, unfortunately, limited to plain text if you go that route, however.
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jchillerup
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 		Hi LadyCatra,
How did it work out. Did you use the HushMail, or did you find a better solution? Remember, I can still send the mail from my IP.

In case the mail is not sent, I came up with another solution earlier today: PHP has a function called mail() (guess what it does). It is highly modifiable, and you can manually set all the headers or just leave them out.
Shall I write the script for you, or is the mail sent?
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LadyCatra
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 		Oooh that's a cool idea....I'll have to look up that code for maybe another ARG later on. We decided to go with the hush and gmail Smile

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