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[LOCKED] Discuss the Axon .wav files and their transscripts here
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improvius
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"Emergency" comes after "you_knew," and anyone who doesn't agree is over-analyzing things. It is clearly obvious that James burned down the police station to destroy Jan's test evidence. It makes PERFECT sense this way, and no sense whatsoever any other way. Can we accept this and move on?

-Imp

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Blicero
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thebruce:
if jan is being questioned about the fire, how come he doesn't ask her a single question about the fire?!.

but he DOES ask her about the base.

btw, the siren is completely irrelevant.

a police siren in Miami sounds exactly the same as a police siren in New York. They must be the same place... right? wtf

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improvius wrote:
"Emergency" comes after "you_knew," and anyone who doesn't agree is over-analyzing things. It is clearly obvious that James burned down the police station to destroy Jan's test evidence. It makes PERFECT sense this way, and no sense whatsoever any other way. Can we accept this and move on?

-Imp


yes, thank you. ugh.

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Nick Page
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yeah, i think it comes in the chronology after, but i dont think it goes with the car conversation, i think its a while afterwards. im grouping them all by starting and stopping sounds, and then trying to order those folders. i have like, 10 groups of the starting and stopping sounds, because while they relate, i think they need to be broken up more than jan, jersey, and the dates. i just think that emergency is its own group, with its own start and stop, by its self, a while after all of the other events.

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weephun
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compilation of wavs

Didn't find this anywhere with the search, so I hope it's not trout.

Nice compilation of the wavs here: http://maxdamage.justblank.net/beewavs.htm

Broken into the 3 story-lines. Seems to match the more generally accepted ordering.
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Blicero
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Nick Page wrote:
yeah, i think it comes in the chronology after, but i dont think it goes with the car conversation, i think its a while afterwards. im grouping them all by starting and stopping sounds, and then trying to order those folders. i have like, 10 groups of the starting and stopping sounds, because while they relate, i think they need to be broken up more than jan, jersey, and the dates. i just think that emergency is its own group, with its own start and stop, by its self, a while after all of the other events.


well i think that's obvious, based on the tape speed-up/slow-down noises that seem to denote the beginning/ending of a scene.

but they are part of the same storyline. just different scenes within the storyline.

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Nick Page
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that, and message saved. she couldnt leave 3 messages on his machine while working on listening to the conversations after kahmal got 30 hours of sound from aiden, and all of this happen soon. i think that the timeline starts with the outages in each grouping of jersey, jan, and the dates, but strecthes through a course of a few days between all the starts and stops.

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Nick Page
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Blicero wrote:
well i think that's obvious, based on the tape speed-up/slow-down noises that seem to denote the beginning/ending of a scene.

but they are part of the same storyline. just different scenes within the storyline.


right, i just mean that i think these are so far seperated that while they are continuing a story, we need to think of them as being spaced out with lots of things happening in between them instead of thinking of them as one complete story line.

like, who's to say that the bad date stuff comes before the kahmal and other girl (what's her name?) conversations? they seem to not relate, and who's to say that kahmal and the other girl are on a date if she is with aiden? i think the kahmal stuff is seperate from the bad date stuff, and that there is more to those that we dont have yet, but hopefully we get after these 210 axons are done or whatever comes next.

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KrunkSplein
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Nick Page wrote:
i just think that emergency is its own group, with its own start and stop, by its self, a while after all of the other events.


Yes, it does happen a while after the car conversation. thats why the car conversation has a stop sound, and the emergency file has a start sound. They signify the passage of time. There are many groups of files with distinct 'starts' and 'stops', but they all fall into the three main lines.

The horribly failed date, the stop at home in between dates, the Sophia date, and the subsequent tracking of Aiden takes place over the course of many days. But it's still one line of files.

The incident at the base, the interrogation, the car scene and the burning of Paris are all one line of files. It follows the events of the James'.

The Durga line is far more cut and dry, being only one group in and of itself.

Just because there is a time difference doesn't mean it is a totally independant incident.

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Avatrix
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thebruce wrote:

However, by using the term "probable cause", it sounds like a much larger crime has been committed, other than simply 'borrowing' a vehicle from the motor pool or trying to jump a perimeter fence. And why would the alarm be blaring just for Jan? She may have broken in, sure, but then even so, 'probable cause'? I think the fact that Paris is burning, arsen is a good crime that Jan may be being questioned for.


The MP's mention that the alarms came on because of the blip--it reset the entire system to a state of alert. Once the alarm was on, they started actually paying attention to the monitors and noticed Jan. Now, whether the alarm was cause by Paris burning or not, I can't say. But, it doesn't seem likely that a burning police station would cause a power blip at a military base. Also, they describe Jan as "a bogey". I think this just means that she is an intruder, and the military tend to frown on intruders in areas of restricted access.

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Nick Page
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well, i think there might be 4 story lines with the bad date and then the aiden/kahmal stuff seem to only relate because there is a date in each, but what im saying is that i dont think we should order them one after another, but put them more into groups, because i think we'll get more information and stuff to place in between and the like soon. i'll post how im grouping them as soon as i get it finished.

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KrunkSplein
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time for more conjecture! This is from hives.html:

Quote:
The voices are in some way related to my accident.
Because of the damage, I am unable to accurately assess the nature of the voices.
By broadcasting the voices to my crew, they will be able to assess the damage.
Once assessed, the damage can be repaired


The accident referenced is the one which sent Melissa back to our time. So somehow, the voices (our WAVs) are related to the accident. Given that there is nothing, no mention of anything that could cause an AI to be hurtled backwards through time, there just has to be more that we haven't been given yet. By the end of this phase, we should be accurately able to determine exactly what happened to Melissa, and we just can't do that yet.

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lilmissmaya
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the way I see it there are only 2 differnt threads.

jersy/durga leads into the jan thread while the bad date thread has kumar all thru it so that is a second thread.

how tot link the two is the question....


hm, maybe durga is listening in on random ppl's conversations or ghosting....
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Blicero
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i just noticed something.


there are 2 types of speed-up/slow-down sounds.


long and short.


i believe that a long speed-up implies the beginning of a story line and long slow-down implies the end of a story line.

the short ones depict scene changes within a story.

Example:

[long speed-up]
parasites
eyes
[short slow-down]

[short speed-up]
beer
four_goats
[short slow-down]

[short speed-up]
our_hoodlums
much_lifting
[short slow-down]

[short speed-up]
meditape
you_could
say_something
[short slow-down]

[short speed-up]
guilty
[short slow-down]

[short speed-up]
message_saved
[short slow-down]

[short speed-up]
tuna
hi_aiden
[long slow-down]

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Nick Page
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Blicero wrote:
i just noticed something.


there are 2 types of speed-up/slow-down sounds.


long and short.


i believe that a long speed-up implies the beginning of a story line and long slow-down implies the end of a story line.


i've been thinking that, and thats how im dividing up the groups. is kahmal the person who goes on the first bad date? hiroyuki talks about him seeing sophia, and i guess we're assuming its sophia that is talking to kahmal. it doesnt seem like a date to me, so this seems like its not right, but thats the only way i can connect the two. can anybody else tell me why they think the two are related? the voices sound different, and the woman never says she is sophia, so i dont think thats it. i think these are different.

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