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DigitalCowboy
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Ok, just to clear this up, it's very easy to establish that Kamal is the male character throughout both dates and 'Beer'. First date, the guy is talking to 'Hiro' on his earbud, dismayed at getting dating advice from Chapter Three of some book. Enter 'Beer', wherein the guy walks in the door and speaks to 'Hiroyuki' about Chapter Three. They further talk about this guy being set up for a date by his mother, who lives on Coral. Enter the next date scene, wherein the guy and the woman discuss mothers and being a mother on Coral in particular. It is in the course of this dating discussion that the guy reveals to the woman his ability to hack the Chatternet and spy on people. She talks about Aiden, finally gets the nerve to ask this guy to spy on Aiden for her. Lead into the message on Kamal's machine regarding the results of exactly what Sophia asked him to do, namely spying on Aiden.

The connections and the thread of the clips are very clear and well defined. Nick, if you still don't see it, let me know and I'll try to explain it in more detail.
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Wally wrote:
i'm sorry, its just that everyone that was around when we figured out the order understood it on the first try, and now people are like, no its wrong, i dont get it... just becasue someone doesn't get it doesn't mean its wrong.. in fact, if someone cant understand it, maybe they should ask instead of telling the rest of us we are wrong.


i agree, i wasnt saying anybody was wrong, i thought they were right, and i even used peoples order when i grouped mine together, all i said was that its clear all of these recordings are spread out over a few days, at least, and that people were saying that they were all consecutive, i was just saying that maybe we should group them more loosely, still in that order, but looser, because we need to be open to the posibility that there may be holes or more information coming that fits in with everything. the long and slow speed ups and downs are a good example of this.

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ssjtrunks585
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Wally wrote:
i'm sorry, its just that everyone that was around when we figured out the order understood it on the first try, and now people are like, no its wrong, i dont get it... just becasue someone doesn't get it doesn't mean its wrong.. in fact, if someone cant understand it, maybe they should ask instead of telling the rest of us we are wrong.


what page can i find the order on?

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Wally wrote:
i'm sorry, its just that everyone that was around when we figured out the order understood it on the first try, and now people are like, no its wrong, i dont get it... just becasue someone doesn't get it doesn't mean its wrong.. in fact, if someone cant understand it, maybe they should ask instead of telling the rest of us we are wrong.


You just registered at this forum two days ago.

I met someone at an axon who didn't even know the Widow's Story, and only went beause his friend told him to go to one of the locations.

Everyone is going to be at a different place, with regards to learning. I know you're frustrated at this aspect of the game, but it's much better to let it roll off your back, provide proof of your assertions, or back off when it gets too stressful for you.

But seriously, thank you for contributing and thinking carefully about these things - we might need your (and others') help on the wiki once the dust settles a bit. Smile

- krystyn, just trying to keep the peace and provide perspective.

Back to your topic, folks! Very Happy

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DigitalCowboy wrote:
Ok, just to clear this up, it's very easy to establish that Kamal is the male character throughout both dates and 'Beer'. First date, the guy is talking to 'Hiro' on his earbud, dismayed at getting dating advice from Chapter Three of some book. Enter 'Beer', wherein the guy walks in the door and speaks to 'Hiroyuki' about Chapter Three. They further talk about this guy being set up for a date by his mother, who lives on Coral. Enter the next date scene, wherein the guy and the woman discuss mothers and being a mother on Coral in particular. It is in the course of this dating discussion that the guy reveals to the woman his ability to hack the Chatternet and spy on people. She talks about Aiden, finally gets the nerve to ask this guy to spy on Aiden for her. Lead into the message on Kamal's machine regarding the results of exactly what Sophia asked him to do, namely spying on Aiden.

The connections and the thread of the clips are very clear and well defined. Nick, if you still don't see it, let me know and I'll try to explain it in more detail.


thanks, but i do see everything that you are talking about, and i accepted it right away when we talked about it a while ago, but ive just noticed that nobody says any names, and while there are similarities with everything, i think its possible that its not them.

now that i think about it though, she says she doesnt want her mom to know about aiden, which means her mom thinks she's single, which would be a reason to set her up with somebody else.

but not for her to go or tell her mom and that other guy she would do it. i just think that since neither of them have names, the voices are dissimilar, and everything in all of these files are done on purpose, that i think there may be holes that we need to consider before we make it solid that "hey, this is how it is right now". i do think the most likely thing is that the guy in the beer date is kahmal and that the woman with kahmal is sophia, just there isnt any proof, there is some reasons to speculate that it isnt them in both cases, and i think that that should be considered.

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Wally wrote:
just noticed something on the site. under sun stuff (the axon page) sometimes the background is green with white bees, sometimes it is white with lavender bees.. i'm wondering if it is some kind of signal...


well, 108 axons now and its still white, but i think you're right about it being a signal. has anobody been keeping track on when its green and when its white?

Edit: wait, it just went green now for me and its staying green.

Edit again: and it went back to white. both files have the same file name, so why would they be changing the background with the same file name? no more axons are being activated. is it green when a call is being made maybe?

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And now for something completely different... A man with a tape recorder up his nose.

No really, a change of tack.
Here are some things I think we should be considering and trying to understand.
1) Whyare the Kamal, Sophia, Celine, and Aiden characters even brought into this? The best guesses so far seem to center around Aiden smuggling the James family onto Earth. But I would argue that this information, even if true, doesn't gain us much, if anything. Leading into my next point.

2) Melissa is expecting her crew (us) to do something with this information. She's expecting us to respond to it somehow and help her. We need to be thinking about what action we can now make with this information. We need to be figuring out what avenue Melissa has made available for her crew to respond back to her. We know easily how to communicate to the SP, but how do we send answers back to Melissa?

Just some grains of sand for all of us to start forming some pearls around.
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i know i'm newly registered as well, but i have been watching this whole thing, and what i had missed i went back and reread the entire story up until now off of the netninja wiki site.

anyways,

dizzy
escape
jersey
reflected
durga
blip
pillow
walkaway_girl
hey_soldier
pqi
stupid_cop
yes_or_no
hey_dad
nervous
law_abiding
you_knew
***EMERGENCY***
parasites
eyes
beer
four_goats
our_hoodlums
much_lifting
meditape
Say_something
guilty
message_saved
tuna
hi_aiden


the reason that emrgency is noted with asterisks is that we dont know extaly where it comes in, but it is the general concensus that james james set the fire (or arranged for it to be set) after fidning out about jan taking the tests(blood urine, retinal scan, etc) and before you say anything about you thinking the fire happened somewhere else or anything about the fire, trust me, we have had this discussion MANY times, it always ends up with everyone eventually realizing that james was responsible, and that it happened after the tests, because that is the only way it makes any damn sense.

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ssjtrunks585
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at 12:44 (9:44 according to the site), the bg was green...once 12:45 rolled around, it turned back to white, so im betting it changes while qa call is being made

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ssjtrunks585 wrote:
at 12:44 (9:44 according to the site), the bg was green...once 12:45 rolled around, it turned back to white, so im betting it changes while qa call is being made


I'm pretty sure the two backgrounds are just randomized. If you Shift+F5 to refresh the page without caching, it'll bounce back and forth between the two pretty randomly.
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yeah, the signal seems to be when mellissa is calling us or not.

but as to the order, i think they need to be grouped looser. i think emergency is set by james, but we dont know when chorologically or how it affects anything else. the grouping i think is because the recordings for blip, parasites, and dizzy all start at the same time, when the power comes back on. it seems like this is related to durga coming. maybe we need to have a table instead of a list for when these occur, so we can get the order for each storyline, and the time for when they all occur (and the holes that we have or may have in the timeline).

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i've been trying to get melissa to respond by feeding her the information we have....

i have another idea.


ok maybe that will work... i emailed ladybee777 that we have recieved all of her transmission and gave her order the order i just listed as if it were a set of pashphrases, asking her to confirm the order of the transmissions

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i think that order works perfectly fine the way it is, if we try to do it any other way, it becomes disjointed.. and it allows you listen to them all

otherwise you are trying to avoid figuring out the big picture... and with mergency where it is, it fits with what jj says he'll do. it FLOWS...

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time to dispell the current theory on the background gif.


put this in your browser and start clicking refresh.

http://ilovebees.com/beebackg.gif

watch it change, randomly (apparently)


this is very wierd, but i think it's safe to say that there is no connection to the time of the calls.[/url]

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Blicero wrote:
time to dispell the current theory on the background gif.


put this in your browser and start clicking refresh.

http://ilovebees.com/beebackg.gif

watch it change, randomly (apparently)


this is very wierd, but i think it's safe to say that there is no connection to the time of the calls.[/url]


it stays white for me until every 4 minutes, and those minutes are on the list of when the calls are made. after about 45 seconds, it changes again from green back to white for another 4 minutes.

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