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[Howdareyou]

<PSH>, you're missing my point. Where the stories actually occur on the 'timeline' is irrelevant. The order I believe they go in is the order that Jersey would have heard.

If they happened in order according to the timeline, then jersey1, jan1, and kamal1 would all start at the same time (considering how all three stories start with a power malfunction). Also, if we weren't hearing the stories because they were ghosted from the chatter network, but for some other reason, there would be no 'winding' noises because they would be occuring in real-time.

Let me reiterate the idea I'm trying to get across. Durga recorded everything we are hearing. I believe that we hear it in the order I suggest because of the following reasons:

1) Jersey's stories do not have short wind sounds, which means that durga just recorded them and did not edit them at all. Jan's second story and both of Kamal's stories occur over multiple days. It is not conceivable that we would be listening to them all at once, as if we're just mysteriously 'hearing' them. Someone must have edited the conversations together, which brings me to my second reason.

2) If Jan2 occurs before Jersey2 (now, understand this; I don't mean if the Jan2 story physically occurs before Jersey2 - that's a given, considering that Durga would have had to have time to record it - I mean if the recording was played before jersey had his second conversation) that would mean that Jersey had already heard it, and would not ask for the information a second time.

Besides, the stories can't outright overlap - if it went like that, then why would jersey and durga talk about kamal first? I don't think that it's possible for any part of the order to go jan -> kamal or kamal -> jan, because the stories aren't linked yet. The only tie we have between the kamal stories and the jan stories is Jersey - therefore, his recordings must come between jan and kamal each time.

[tenshukain]

order?

[tenshukain]

trouted myself

[<PSH>]

ok , howdareyou, so what order are you tring to organize them in then ... the order durga played them for jeresy? or the order of the story from jersey's point of view?... if weren't not putting them in physical order.

i doubt durga would have replayed the "jersey story" for jersey and i'm not seeing why reconstructing the story from jersey's point of view is more relevent then from durga's... in other words the order they were recorded/happened in.

[Howdareyou]

Yeah, I get your point about durga playing the jersey story, PSH. It doesn't make sense, but it's obvious that Jersey is listening to the other ones because there are references to them in his stories.

Maybe Durga is recording them just because she can? As a record, if you will. There aren't any short winds in the Jersey story to indicate scene changes. It seems like he's just fill-in narration so far.

I think the way I've arranged them is the story from jersey's point of view. The first 'act' would be Jersey1 then Jan1, then 'act two' is the entire kamal storyline so far (kamal1 then kamal2), Jersey2 then Jan2.

My reason for why I'm arranging them into jersey's p.o.v is that he talks about the other stories and has almost certainly been listening to them, whereas kamal and jan are unaware of his, and each other's, presence. Also, we know that Durga is following jan and kamal (although in kamal's case, we don't know why).

It just makes sense for Jersey to be the pseudo-protagonist of the entire plot. He's the justification we have for being able to hear the other stories.

Though, I guess we won't be able to fully work out if there is an order until we have all 777 axons...

[<PSH>]

i agree that jersey is our most likely protaganist in the wave file story but like you said till we have all 777 axons worth of wave files ordering them is all spec.

[fyzle]

the winding sounds

[<PSH>]

thats an interesting idea but who then is sending them to us ,for analysis?

in my assumption that durga is recording them and causeing the wind sound in the process durga is then posting them for us "her crew" to analize the "voices in her head" so that we can tell her why she is hearing these voices and how to "repair her self".

i'm not sure how or why a person other then durga would be conveying these wave files to us atleast not in game terms.

[Howdareyou]

Re: the winding sounds

[<PSH>]

That's a good point haredareyou, I just read the Melissa<->Durga connection threw time thread ... it makes things a lot more complicated if we assume they aren't the same and have to be communicating with each other for some purpose...
None of the time travel/forerunner artifact/crystal threads have yet convinced me that time travel in game is anything more then wild spec... That having been said I'm interested about the slipstreams and spaceships because eliminating time travel possibility almost certainly forces a White Wolf style World of Darkness on the game.
we of course have assumed the calls are to Melissa's crew and that she asked us to help her with the voices ... I'm not clear why she's playing Durga's files if there not the voices that Melissa is hearing ... but it is odd to have the wav file characters and the ILB characters named differently if there are the same person...
This is turning in to more of a core dump then a coherent statement so I'll stop for now...