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coweringomega
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Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 11
Speaking of blips.... I hope this isn't trout, but it seems like it fits in here.
Since people are [specing] about the 3 poweroutages, being the same,
[quote]ok.... to clarify then
the blip, ahem
the blackout basically, all 3 dramas start in an instant when communication equipment goes all wonky, the AI appears on Jersey's system, Kamal and Hiro lose communication, and a blackout alerts security to Jan's presence
if we conjencture that that was one single moment in time... what caused it?[/quote]
Don't forget the FOURTH communications drop, in Paris burning, the system didn't register the fire. That could definitely fit in.
However, I personally don't believe that these are all the same event. While I don't know what caused the others, I feel that paris burning is Jan's "Dad" covering their tracks at the police station.
Dernit, I can't get the quotes to work.
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:08 pm
improvius
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Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 54 Location: Rochester, NY
Re: Speaking of blips....
coweringomega wrote:
IDon't forget the FOURTH communications drop, in Paris burning, the system didn't register the fire. That could definitely fit in.
We know that takes place after the interrogation, and is a continuation of that story line. The next person to suggest otherwise gets pranked with a crowbar.
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:12 pm
Andy
Boot
Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 55
My personal theory, based almost solely on hunches, is that The Castaway attempts to send Melissa along with the Forerunner artifact to his son on Earth. However, travelling with the artifact causes odd things to happen as in the novel First Strike , sending Melissa back in time. Her arrival in that timeframe is accompanied by some sort of disturbance which disrupts the city's power.
As for Jan, I'm pretty sure she was really just trying to return the gatepass like she says.
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:13 pm
voipme
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Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 94
Here's some wild spec for you to play with. Let's say that the ship Melissa was on crashed into Earth (or wherever they are). Judging by the fact that the power went out, let's say it hit a powerplant of some sort. Through some bizarre turn of events, Melissa was able to get off of the ship. Maybe its just me, but I think we'll be seeing more references to tie Melissa and Durga together. We already have all the weird S.E.R.E. and "wake up" phrases to match them together. If that's the case and Melissa == Durga, then we might be able to spec as to why Durga/Melissa went to Jersey's computer. The only reason I can see for that is because Jersey's father (Corporal Jason Morelli) is the only person who has ever made Melissa "feel real."
Ok, I'm done speccing my pants off.
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:16 pm
coweringomega
Boot
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 11
[quote] We know that takes place after the interrogation, and is a continuation of that story line. The next person to suggest otherwise gets pranked with a crowbar. [/quote]
I completely agree. It seems pretty obvious that it does come after, I just threw that in there since we were looking at communications blackouts.
OK, what am I doing wrong with the quotes?
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:50 pm
improvius
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Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 54 Location: Rochester, NY
I think it's safe to assume that SSF agent James disabled any systems which might somehow lead to the fire being put out before the evidence was consumed. We are only looking at the 3 "mysterious" spikes which start the 3 scenes.
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:56 pm
truegent
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Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 101 Location: CO, USA
Re: Speaking of blips....
improvius wrote:
coweringomega wrote:
IDon't forget the FOURTH communications drop, in Paris burning, the system didn't register the fire. That could definitely fit in.
We know that takes place after the interrogation, and is a continuation of that story line. The next person to suggest otherwise gets pranked with a crowbar.
-Imp
We do not *know* it. It is the most logical but there is not concrete evidence.
More to the point. improvius, Look at how the AI respondes when told there is a fire. It is not "Oh, my! So there is" (i.e. blackout) it is "I get no reading from the fire sensors in that area." (i.e. someone has tampered with teh system).
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:22 pm
thebruce
Dances With Wikis
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 6899 Location: Kitchener, Ontario
Re: Speaking of blips....
improvius wrote:
We know that (the fire) takes place after the interrogation, and is a continuation of that story line. The next person to suggest otherwise gets pranked with a crowbar.
We don't know it takes place after the interrogation, nor that it is a continuation of that story line. The next person to state again that it is gets whacked with a baseball bat.
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:43 pm
GunsmithCat
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Joined: 05 Aug 2004 Posts: 459
That's the joy of a story told by multiple unreliable narrators with a penchant for surrealism and an inability to communicate directly.
It's hard to say anything is 100%.
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:52 pm
Dan04
Greenhorn
Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 4
I spec that Jan was questioned in the ruins of a burnt down police station.
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 1:34 am
Heresiarch
Boot
Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 19 Location: OR
First time listening to the stories I thought that the <dizzy...durga> sequence led to the <blip...hey_soldier> sequence, the "better-than-that" that durga suggests being a direct feed to info on Jan at that second. I thought that the power surge was durga bulling her way into the system and focusing on Jan.
Now I think that CoffeeJedi's three simultaneous interruptions theory is right, but I thought I'd throw that out for everyone anyway, just for spec-juice.
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:18 am
CoffeeJedi
Unfictologist
Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 1327 Location: Charlotte NC, USA
some good ideas about the possible effects of time travel causing the blackout, but the blackout happens in the 26th century, mellisa is here in the 21st
how does that work?
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 9:13 am
johnny5
Entrenched
Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 995 Location: Elysian Fields
A few random thoughts:
Melissa/Durga arrived onto Jersey's computer, then expanded.
The comms malfunction between Kamahl and Hiro may have been caused when Durga "wet the system" explaining how she has the transmissions in memory.
[WAS(Wild as Spec)] What if Jan is a cyborg. Partial AI. maybe the sleeping Princess? Theire levels of maturity are similar.
--john--
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 9:43 am
thebruce
Dances With Wikis
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 6899 Location: Kitchener, Ontario
no, that scene also opens with the disruption - Jeannie had to restart because of it
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:26 am
Extrasonic
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Joined: 03 Aug 2004 Posts: 233 Location: Suburban Chicago
thebruce wrote:
no, that scene also opens with the disruption - Jeannie had to restart because of it
Erm, when I heard the name I always thought of it spelled Genie, or possibly GENIE (as an acronym). That is to say - of the Djinn variety, not the Barbara Eden variety. Not sure why I think that or if it'd be important, though so feel free to ignore me.
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:59 am
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