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[Speaker]

In one of the snippets from pillow... they comment that the "bogey" is human. While that seemed clear in the earlier sections of the tape - since they mention she's hot and stuff.... I think its interesting that they comment on it when they get a picture of her face.

If they haven't bumped into Covenant - what else would she be but human? Is it just a comment like "she's real" or "she's not a ghost"? or does it reveal that the MPs are aware of potential non-human threats?

[Nola]

It seems to me that Apocalypse is too strong a word for something that happened only to yourself. There has to be more significance behind it.

Additionally, I think referring to the covenant offensive as the apocalypse does not necessarilly imply covenant victory... but that there was enough mayhem and destruction to call it that. In fact, the covenant proved in Halo they will run away and stop fighting when things "go awry" and their chain of command is lost. Maybe that's how the MC beats them in the end.

[ajenteks]

[Speaker]

It's a woman is from blip.

From Pillow:

[ajenteks]

[Speaker]

Actually I think you're right - and editted my post above to reflect that. It makes the issue about them thinking it might be a non-human go away and doesn't rock the boat on the pre-covenant speculations.

Its also a lot more consistent with blip since they obviously already recognize she's a hot woman.

[GunsmithCat]

[Knight Hawk]

I think Melissa's reference to the Apocalypse may be the destruction of Reach. Remember ONI's base, the CASTLE, was on Reach. If Melissa is a smart AI she was most likely created by ONI, and seeing the homeworld she was created on being glassed would probably constitute an Apocalypse for her. Sorry I didnt tag this as SPEC, but I've got a funny feeling that Melissa's ship was present before the destruction of Reach, and happened to jump out of system AS Reach was being glassed.

The Apocalypse is usually known as a biblical event that signifies the end of the world. In most Halo 2 advertisements I see there is something there like "They didnt want to destroy earth, just mankind."(implying the Covenant obviously). Everything in Halo 2 ads suggests that the Covenant need earth to serve some purpose or the other.

[HitsHerMark]

[Stratus]

well in the halo books, the Covenant come to Reach, not to distroy it, but to find the Artifact(the slip-space, ruibix-cude, time bending crystal). so maybe earth is just another location of another artifact left by the Forerunners and Humans just have **** for luck when it comes to picking planets to live on.

The chances of Jan being a Spartan-II are slim. Spartians where always under close, close, close observation. The only time they got free time was when they escaped during a training mission and vacationed on an island for "a week of surfing and crab dinners".

They were first developed as a way to take down human resistance on other colonys, i doubt that they would be allowed to run free and take the chance of enemys finding out about them.

Also by the end of First Strike(begining of Covenant invasion), the spartans are in there late 30s-early 40s. So if this takes place after the invasion, well you know.

The chances of Mel being on Reach and living to tell about it are also slim. As soon as the attack began, the HighCom issued that Cole Protocol is to be issued and all AI and hard memory is to be distroyed(save for cortona becasue of her mission).

[bucketman]

[chaotic_mind]

Well, the lastest axons definitely take place DURING the Covenant war. That doesn't mean anything for the other axons. Still, it does cause me to lean away from ilovebees being a prequel of sorts, and more setting the stage for Halo 2.

Oh well. I wanted to learn more about pre-Covenant politics on Earth and elsewhere, but I'm still happy with how the game has gone so far.

Besides, more evidence will necessitate adapting theories to it, so, nothing is certain.

Luke P.

[yanka]

[chaotic_mind]

I think GunsmithCat means that there was no mention of the Covenant in the .wav's. Which is why I opened the thread in the first place.

As to the glassing thing, technically humans could probably do it using nuclear carpet bombing, but it doesn't seem feasible.

In other words, yes, the Covenant show up in Melissa's monolgues. Until the Princess gave us some axons to burn ourselves on, they didn't show up in the .wav story

Luke P.

[Cherry Cotton]

If Jan is a Spartan or something similar, perhaps James James is the one responsible for breaking her out and getting her a (somewhat fake) like as a high school student. This would make sense, since James talks about everything in terms of a bigger picture.