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Lutzie
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[meta]No rewards?

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but when you play a game, be it a boardgame, a text game or a computer game, you are rewarded with something for doing a task, level, killing a boss etc.

So far we've received nothing, save more puzzles. TBH I'm losing interest a bit now, as not only is there no clear direction in which this thing is leading, but there's also no UNclear direction either...

I like getting my teeth into a puzzle, even if I can't contribute much to this whole thing, but I also like knowing that it'll be worthwhile…

Have we had an "rewards" in the ARG aside from more clues?

Anyone feel the same?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:51 am
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Prokaryotic-Cell
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i am partly in agreement. nothing big happened on the 24th. all the wav files have been collected and still nothing. i don't want to give up but the lack of any "reward" that you had mentioned makes this whole thing seem kind of pointless. to be honest, i'll just wait until the end of the week and if there's nothing new then i'll just look forward to november 9th as orginally planned.
has anyone considered why such effort was put into this whole marketing tactic? i mean everyone know halo 2 is going to be huge and that everyone is going to buy it so why all these fun and games? to make us want it more? with or without this campaign, i was going to buy this game anyway.
it's 2:20am in the morning, listening to these wav files forwards, backwards, slowed down, adjusted pitches, over and over again is making me impatient.

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Consider an ARG more as an adventure game such as Zork or Time Zone. It isnt a simple gratification thing and tends to be ont he order of fiendishly difficult puzzles which set its own mythos.

I think one thing causing dissatisfaction, the true amount of ties into the Halo mythos is quite miniscule compared to the new mythos we are learning along the way. People are desperately trying to fit the two together, and it causes them frustration.

In the original Beast, the reward was in the form of a sneak preview of the movie AI. The ARG for it was built onto the mythos whicih formed the basis for the movie, without actually going into the movie plotline.

The reward may be the journey itself, an exciting hunt and brain exerciser which is increasingly rare in a real world based more and more on shorter attention spans and instant gratification.
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Lutzie
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Nightmare Tony wrote:
The reward may be the journey itself, an exciting hunt and brain exerciser which is increasingly rare in a real world based more and more on shorter attention spans and instant gratification.
I can appreciate that, but also I'd like to know that all the hard work is for something, not just more of the same. And we've been going at this for a month now... If not longer...

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Prokaryotic-Cell wrote:
i am partly in agreement. nothing big happened on the 24th. all the wav files have been collected and still nothing.


IMHO, I think the wav files themselves were the reward.
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Lutzie wrote:
Nightmare Tony wrote:
The reward may be the journey itself, an exciting hunt and brain exerciser which is increasingly rare in a real world based more and more on shorter attention spans and instant gratification.
I can appreciate that, but also I'd like to know that all the hard work is for something, not just more of the same. And we've been going at this for a month now... If not longer...
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Lutzie wrote:
Nightmare Tony wrote:
The reward may be the journey itself, an exciting hunt and brain exerciser which is increasingly rare in a real world based more and more on shorter attention spans and instant gratification.
I can appreciate that, but also I'd like to know that all the hard work is for something, not just more of the same. And we've been going at this for a month now... If not longer...


I must have missed out on the medal ceremony after I finished Halo 1. Also, I played chess a few weeks back and I didn't see a single dollar OR cookie when I won! This "game" is a ripoff just like that! I quit in disgust posthaste!

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Btw if you don't think this has to do with the immersion of storyline that has to go in this, Bungie mentions so many times, the thing they want people to take away is the story. For them the story is the most important part, ARG= easier and cooler way to tell it.
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sherpa
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Varin wrote:
IMHO, I think the wav files themselves were the reward.


I completely agree. More storyline and more puzzles are reward enough for me. Learning about a new universe, new characters and new concepts is pretty cool too. If someone wants "LEVEL UP!" signs every time they create a new bit of spec, then maybe this isn't the game for them...
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Lutzie
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Atoner wrote:
Lutzie wrote:
Nightmare Tony wrote:
The reward may be the journey itself, an exciting hunt and brain exerciser which is increasingly rare in a real world based more and more on shorter attention spans and instant gratification.
I can appreciate that, but also I'd like to know that all the hard work is for something, not just more of the same. And we've been going at this for a month now... If not longer...


I must have missed out on the medal ceremony after I finished Halo 1. Also, I played chess a few weeks back and I didn't see a single dollar OR cookie when I won! This "game" is a ripoff just like that! I quit in disgust posthaste!

-Atoner-

Fair point, the reward if very often knowing that you beat the game.

However I can't remember the last game that took me a month to finish.

Hell, I'm hard pushed to remember one that took me a week to finish, even a day in many cases...

Maybe the slower pace is not for me. Smile

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i like the slower pace, because i play from work, i know i can pop on the message board every now and then and catch up and post, if a user problem calls me away or a server goes down, its nice to know that when i come back... not TOO much will have changed

heck, i was away on vacation all last week, i logged on about one time every 2 days... and i still could catch up completely on sunday in the course of about an hour.... if it was any faster, i wouldn't be able to play
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Arashi
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I have to agree a little.

We waited 31 days (if not more) for something that... just turned into another LONG waiting period. It's kind of tedious and dull - especially when you love ARGs.

If we have to (and since we've collected all the wav's and have got no reward or advancement yet..) fill up the 777 bar, that could take weeks..

So yeh, I'd have to say I'm quite dissatisfied with this one so far... but who knows, it could take a drastic turn Smile

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Lutzie
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One good thing about the game though is that by and large it's being played by intelligent people. Had it been full of leet speakers I'd have walked away on day 1.

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Arashi wrote:
We waited 31 days (if not more) for something that... just turned into another LONG waiting period. It's kind of tedious and dull - especially when you love ARGs.


More than 31 days -- but we weren't exactly doing nothing all that time, now, were we? I don't view this game as "waiting for something big" but working on one puzzle at a time. I guess it's a case of which paradigm you subscribe to.

If there were more content, this place would be chaos, but that does seem to be where it differs from the Beast, et al. By restricting the content and timeline, it's forcing us to be a lot more introspective and speculative, rather than going "solve solve solve" and only then looking back at the more subtle clues.

CJ - as for catching up in an hour - I was away on holiday until the evening of the 24th... it took me an afternoon just to catch up on the posts from that day, let alone the previous five I was out for. Smile
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To quickly express my opinion, and the way I'm pursuing this:

The chase is its own prize. The pursuit is its own reward. The trophy is the story. Anything else is gravy. Smile

-- Steve's kinda dismayed at the number of people expecting a toy in the candy box. And even more dismayed at the number demanding one. Sad
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