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[SPEC] Durga & the Navy Sentinels?
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The Luggage
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Look, let's work through it methodically.

Fact: The two navy AI's were working on Jersey's security bot.

Fact: Durga infiltrated the system "Like water htting the ground, sinking in."

Fact: Jersey knows means of combating viruses.

Fact: Jersey knows the sort of protection Admirals have.

Fact: Jersey is savvy to how files can be "snared".

Now, since Durga is not in the system at first, it may very well be that she "passed" the the AIs as she infiltrated Jersey's computer. Regardless, she saw the working on JERSEY's security bot, and stung them. Jersey tries to get rid of Durga, but she is able to stop him from reinitializing the system with a something package. Now, that may or may not be a common approach, but the fact that Jersey is surprised when it doesn't work (or that Durga knows what's happening) indicates it should be effective against an invading virus. After Durga's blurb about Jersey, he asks if she could hack into an Admiral, then stops her, because "they have packet guards around them in rings". This indicates that either it's fairly common knowledge, or he's tried to get through himself. Considering that Aiden's girlfriend didn't know what Ghosting was, I doubt it. Then, when he asks asks about Jan's dad, he asks if his real name's snared. This shows that he at least knows about stuff that should not be common knowledge. Everyone knows the Admirals in the public eye, but he also know's what sort of thing are on the really secret files.

So, we have two alternatives.

1: Jersey just knows a lot of buzzwords and the AI's were tracking Durga who had been in there for only a couple of seconds.

2. Jersey's online activities had been tracked by the police and now two AI's were working on his bot, hoping to learn who he was when Durga arrived and stung them.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:17 pm
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Kyrin
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You guys are forgetting one of the key words thought: Sentinel. A sentinel stands and watches, for the most part. They don't really do recon, just stand around, guarding, watching.

More than likely since his dad works for Naval Intelligence they've got Navy Sentinels perusing his home network on a regular basis, making sure no one is transmitting or leaking sensitive data. They stand around and read his email to make sure he isn't a traitor, right? Well his PDA starts acting weird, unusual, so the sentinels try to get in to see if it's been hacked or is being used illicitly, and Durga vaporizes them.

I doubt the sentinels were implicitly chasing Durga, they were just trying to see what the unusual activity on the network was.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:14 pm
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Knight Hawk
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I think everyone is forgetting a vital part to the plot so far. Smart AIs like playing "Hide and Seek" if Durga is a smart AI, the navy sentinels purpose may be to find her and try as best as they can to retrieve her after she leaves her system to play hide and seek. Durga may be hiding in Jersey's system, which might explain what she is doing there, that is for certain.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:44 pm
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Anonymousless
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Jersey strikes me as being on the level of modern day hardcore Linux kernal users. They know a lot, especially to customize things for themselves to make computing easier, but know little about or simply could care less about trying to break into other systems. As for the Sentinels, it's possible they just went into some kind of "scramble" mode after the blackout just like the base security system in Jan. They've basically just been kicked into a higher level of alert and are now on the prowl for anything suspicious. They either note the presence of Durga or something else interesting on Jersey's computer and try to take a closer look.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:23 pm
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Aelith
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my turn

Agree with all points stated that Jursey is not a hacker. But I think some minior points are missing.
One, remember who his dad is, Jason the Odysessian Castaway. Navy Intelegence. That makes Jursey a "navy brat" and there fore probabley more knowlegeable about navy things than the average kid. Not that his age has been established yet.
Two, Jan is on the 4th floor. In my mind I pictured an appartment complex. He calls James James real in a way that suggests Jursey has had dealings with him. Is Jursey a member of James team? or did James send the Sentinals because Jursey showed too much interest in Jan?
And three, we know there will be more because we don't know what it was that Durga could do better than pictures. (holograms?)
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johnny5
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Knight Hawk wrote:
I think everyone is forgetting a vital part to the plot so far. Smart AIs like playing "Hide and Seek" if Durga is a smart AI, the navy sentinels purpose may be to find her and try as best as they can to retrieve her after she leaves her system to play hide and seek. Durga may be hiding in Jersey's system, which might explain what she is doing there, that is for certain.


From what I've read, that depends on the AI.
Quote:

ONI tech Kowalski: You know, from before. Tag - that's regular navy, like destroyers. Command HQ is usually Truth or Dare, something like that. Red Rover -

Midshipman Arrelts: Light /// picket?

ONI tech Kowalski: Couriers, too.

Melissa likes to play Hide and Seek, but that's classified information
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:40 pm
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johnny5
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The package

I listened to it a couple of times and I swear she is saying:

Don't try reinitializing the system with a "Roto Rootix" package.

Laughing

--john--

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:00 pm
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Stratus
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We all know about the kind of protection the governemt uses on there networks. Does that mean we are all hackers? Just like us now, Jersey(in the future) knows how and what kind of protection the government uses.

the word everyone it trying to find out sounds phenticaly like low-lu-dix. But when she says it he tone drops and it sounds slured. I think, whatever it is, is used to restore the system, i.e. norton ghost(used to take a picture of your harddrive, when ever the computer is rebooted, the system reverts back to the picture).

as for the navy sentials, i dont think they were chasing durga. when jersey asks durga what happened to them, shes says "just alittle sting, more like a pinch, they barely felt it." that leads me to believe that they were snooping about, trying to get around the sucerity bot that jersey had set up, when durga awoke, noticed them and stung them. it also leads me to believe that she didnt erase them either. if she had erased them it wouldnt have been a pinch, it would have been a kick in the nuts followed by a shot to the head. i think that she merely kicked them out of the system.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:21 pm
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mrzarquon
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Jersey is a navy brat with a crush on Jan. He isn't the only one who wants / has pictures of her:

Frank: Jan James, the local heartbreaker at my son's high school.
Officer: Dwayne knows this girl?!
Frank: Knows her? He's got like a picture under his pillow!

The sentinels were probably probing the network post power failure, or wanted to find something on Jersey's machine. Remember, his dad did give him a sizable music collection, and maybe among the music was some hidden information (or that is what the sentinels think).

Or, I just realized this, Melissa, who had a close bond with the castaway (i may have gotten this all mixed up, sorry if i did) was sent back to his son, Jersey, as an attempt to smuggle her off of the ship before she was destroyed, decommissioned or captured.

It would make sense that these audio clips would be released by the AI at ilovebess.com would consist of events from its own memory banks, maybe its first landing on terrestrial earth.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:24 pm
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KubeČ
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Another point...

Yeah, it's just there you guys, we only have to listen to the wav... Durga woke up in Jersey's Home/Work system, when he told Jeannie to 'liquify' her, Durga felt threatened and killed Jeannie. Not just killed her, but... killed her.

I agree with someone that said that the Navy Sentinels felt some disturbance in the Net and rushed to Jersey's computer. But anyway, they were trying to get past the security bot (Jeannie), obviously, before Jeannie got erased. But why did Durga sting them? Did she feel threatened by their near presence? Even not knowing who she was, she knew that Navy Sentinels were not going to be nice with her. She needed a reason. Which one?

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The Luggage
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Why does ewveryone assume that's Genie's the security bot? The security bot would most likely be a different program from the UI.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:59 pm
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KubeČ
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Maybe Jeannie was THE UI. I mean the OS and those stuff... Maybe every system can be totally controlled by an AI in that time. Durga just replaced it.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 12:35 am
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Heresiarch
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Jersey reminds me of me when I was in sixth grade. . . all "I am a 133t h4x0r because I can disable Foolproof on the school computers!!" Just because he thinks he's computer savvy doesn't mean he actually is. And he is a navy brat, no doubt he's picked up info about sentinels and packet gunners just from living on the base.

The way I see it is he just started out hacking. He nosed around an admiral's network, got scared and ran, but not without attracting some attention first. The sentinels are at his computer because of that--just keeping an eye on a potential trouble-maker. Sentinels (some sort of info-gathering primitive AI--like the flea, but cruder) are scary to a neophyte hacker, but pretty paltry to a military AI.
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bfos7215
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The Luggage wrote:
Why does ewveryone assume that's Genie's the security bot? The security bot would most likely be a different program from the UI.


Agreed. I don't think it is. Durga doesn't seem to refer to the security bot as, "that program I just killed."

There's no reason to think that Jeannie was the security bot, but, really, it probably doesn't affect the story enought either way to matter.

Brian

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ROBOGriff
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[Wild SPEC] Durga was ALWAYS in Jersey's system

Just a diffrent spin on this. Durga was always on Jersey's system (placed there by his dad?). She reacted to somthing that made her wake up.
That explains why she says

Quote:
Waking up. Wake up. Stay awake. Survive, evade, resist, escape.


Then she proceeds to protect her self.

As for Jersey himself, I feel that he's a classmate of Jan and has the hots for her. His dad was/is in intelligence and could have broadcasted the signal to wake Durga up.

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