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[SPEC] Meaning of the New Clips From the recipe3 Page
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Astald
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Sounds like it happens the same day as the other wavs. Bands go out, I am guessing because of the power outtage we have seen in the other stories. I wonder if hello happens right after the bands go out?

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If the bands go out, that answers question of the music in the background...Crotchety is talking over CP to a CP customer service rep. He complains that the music is out and voice quality is bad...more evidence that we are hearing the higher-ups listen to the recording.

Spec: Crotchety's important family papers were routed back to Earth, and the Covenant found Earth's location when they took the papers in the battle that killed Lt. Janet. Higher-ups are reviewing the tape because it is a possible way for Covie to find Earth. The very prospect of Earth being attacked makes the Higher-up a bit Jumpy, and when the Lower-Ranked officer comes in reporting that something is in orbit, he freaks out for a second.

I also am thinking that the Chat Protocol Authority is like the post office of the future.
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reply to interpretation on "troy"

SuperJerms wrote:
If the bands go out, that answers question of the music in the background... He complains that the music is out and voice quality is bad...

No, I think that Crotchety means "bands" like radio bands or channels.

SuperJerms wrote:
Higher-ups are reviewing the tape ...

Imaginative interpretation (and I like it), ...
SuperJerms wrote:
...because it is a possible way for Covie to find Earth.

... but bills of lading don't generally include explicit map-directions for routing, just destinations (think airport codes on luggage, or zipcodes).

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Ok I have a theory on this. The "old Man" is talking to the operator to send a "message received"(the receipt) to Janet Adams or somebody within the CPA. As discussed ealrier in this thread. I think this pretains to some sort of impending invasion of earth message perhaps sent by Janet. The whole any data yet section sounds like a warning of an unkown incoming ship that turns out as a flase alarm and is finaly Identified as one of the UNSC. As discussed this could be J^2 that Jan sent a message through after finding out the plans for attack. perhaps Jan is one of melissa's crew.

Also I just went through the new wiki site to see if Melissa's ship was named anywhere and it isn't but i did come across a reference to an "old guy" being a contact for McKaskill when Melissa was talking to him. perhaps this man from the hidden axons is McKaskill's contact?

The page on the wiki
http://qube.netninja.com/beewiki/PhaseShipboardMemories

perhaps this helps? thoughts anybody?
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I haven't seen this connection explicitly stated, so I'll just say it:

It seems like the Apocalypso dropping in is the cause of the power failure that ties all these axon stories together.

To me it sounds like Men 1 and 2 are trying to figure out why the wonkiness with "the bands" and the chatternet happened:

New man 1: Any data yet?
New man 2: A lot of chatter from the cable, sir. It looks like a ship dropped in, inside of lunar orbit.
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I've been thinking about the power outtage too. Maybe it is caused by the "glassing" of Troy. A nuclear blast is capable of causing blackouts. If Troy is reasonably far away, it could have just taken time for Earth to feel the effects.

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Troy glassed cause of power outage

Astald wrote:
I've been thinking about the power outtage too. Maybe it is caused by the "glassing" of Troy. A nuclear blast is capable of causing blackouts. If Troy is reasonably far away, it could have just taken time for Earth to feel the effects.

Presuming a nuclear blast (several, really) as the means by which a planet is "glassed", I doubt that the effects would cause an EMP large enough to effect Earth if Troy were much further away than the distance between the Earth and its Sun. While a corona mass ejection can (has) cause a power failure from magnetic effects on power transmission lines, this is supposing Troy to be very very close to Earth (closer even than Jupiter's Trojan Asteroids are to Earth).

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well, to that end, maybe it would help if someone could explain exactly what happens in a glassing...i know it's a plasma-weapon based attack, but does it destroy the actual planet, all life on the planet, or just the puny hoo-mans on the planet?

I like the idea that the old man could be the ONI contact that Weedy was in touch with, except for that ONI is based on Earth or Reach as I understand it.

As far as my statement about the B.O.L., Lt. Janet wouldn't have had the B.O.L., she would have had the actual family papers. If they had first been routed to CPA HQ, they might have directions to Earth attached. The B.O.L. is just a receipt.

Or, maybe Crotchety is a ONI spook, and the 'important family papers' are acutally espionage documents, and _they_ had directions to Earth? Thoughts?
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gheritt wrote:
I haven't seen this connection explicitly stated, so I'll just say it:

It seems like the Apocalypso dropping in is the cause of the power failure that ties all these axon stories together.

To me it sounds like Men 1 and 2 are trying to figure out why the wonkiness with "the bands" and the chatternet happened:

New man 1: Any data yet?
New man 2: A lot of chatter from the cable, sir. It looks like a ship dropped in, inside of lunar orbit.


Ooooh, I like that. That makes a BOATLOAD of sense. Nice find, gheritt; I'd be surprised if you weren't right on.

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SuperJerms wrote:
well, to that end, maybe it would help if someone could explain exactly what happens in a glassing...i know it's a plasma-weapon based attack, but does it destroy the actual planet, all life on the planet, or just the puny hoo-mans on the planet?


The Covenant bombard the planet with plasma, which essentially cooks the atmosphere and melts all silicon on and near the surface into glass, hence the name. That pretty much kills everything on the planet.
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[SPEC] There is no crotchety old man, just a naval officer.

I have some speculation about the 'crotchety old man's' chatter call about his lost family papers that I'd like to share.

It begins with the idea that the crotchety old man and the important naval officer that we hear briefly in goodbye.wav are in fact the same person. The way I hear this situation is that the officer is sitting in his office and conducting this chatter call when his subordinate knocks on the door and informs him of current events while he is waiting for the clerk on the other end of the chatter line to look up the current disposition of the unfortunate Lance Corporal Janet Adams.

I think that is the case for two reasons: First of all, this makes sense of the short conversation that the naval officer has with his subordinate in the midst of the longer crotchety old man chatter conversation. I can't imagine why else that is in the midst of the chatter conversation. The second reason is that the crotchety old man's voice does seem contrived, and bears a strong resemblance to that of the naval officer. Furthermore, it takes the naval officer a minute to get the fake accent nailed down again after the chatter conversation resumes near the end of goodbye.wav.

So the question is what the heck is going on here? The naval officer clearly is not actually a crotchety old man who was evacuated from Troy and has his family papers lost by a Marine named Lance Corporal Janet Adams. This is a ruse ... the naval officer was likely never on Troy shortly before the glassing. There may never have actually been an evacuation from Troy. Lance Corporal Janet Adams may never have been on Troy. Troy was most certainly glassed, though.

By phoning in this complaint as the 'crotchety old man', the naval officer is creating a stir within the bureaucracy, and thus creating the appearance of the fact that the glassing of Troy was something that was known about beforehand. I can only conclude that the naval officer is aware of the fact that Capt. Greene's ship did have signal intelligence that let them know about the glassing of Troy beforehand. By lodging this fake complaint, he's creating a situation which is going to cause an investigation regarding who knew what and when about the fact that Troy was going to be glassed.

I have no idea what the naval officer's reasons would be for doing this. But I do feel confident that by formulating this 'crotchety old man' story, and putting into motion an investigation about who knew what and when about Troy being glassed (a necessary issue to investigate if some anonymous crank is reporting that someone had their papers lost when being evacuated from Troy by military personnel), that some heads will roll, or at the very least some very pointed questions will be asked.

I'm pretty sure the naval officer knows full well that Lance Corporal Jan Adams is deceased (that's the sort of thing I imagine he could find out). By using her name, there are no repercussions from his ruse for a Marine who is still living and breathing. And when they look into how Lance Corporal Janet Adams could possibly have taken possession of the 'crotchety old man's' family papers, the navy will be forced to look into who else could possibly have evacuated someone from Troy, ergo who actually knew beforehand that Troy would be glassed. Note that the 'crotchety old man' never gives a name (in the three segments we have), so all the clerk on the other end has is the name of dead Marine and a chatter protocol address, which presumably could be spoofed/faked.

Now, this is speculation, and I conceive it with a real lack of information about what actually happened. But it strikes me that the complaint is designed perfectly to get the navy to start asking questions about their intelligence and the glassing of Troy. Note how pleased the 'crotchety old man' sounds when the clerk says that she'll pass the issue on to her superiors. It seems to me that this is exactly what the naval officer was hoping to accomplish. I look forward to getting some more facts to see if I'm right about this, and how it fits into the bigger picture.
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xnbomb, you the diggity. I am looking forward to seeing if/how your most excellent spec plays out.

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Re: [SPEC] There is no crotchety old man, just a naval offi

xnbomb wrote:
Furthermore, it takes the naval officer a minute to get the fake accent nailed down again after the chatter conversation resumes near the end of goodbye.wav.


I totally agree with this.

As for the rest... I think hello.wav will give us some good answers when it goes hot.
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Re: [SPEC] There is no crotchety old man, just a naval offi

xnbomb wrote:
This is a ruse ... the naval officer was likely never on Troy shortly before the glassing. There may never have actually been an evacuation from Troy.

Except, the Annoyed Receptionist was already well aware that an evacuation of Troy took place. She knows that the marines who barged into his study were in fact saving his life, and she thinks it's ridiculous that he's complaining about it.

I think we can be quite certain that there was at least a partial evacuation of Tory, and that the fact that it occurred is common knowledge.
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Apocalypso re-entry / power outage

(troy)
CrotchetyMan: ...first all the bands go out, now I can hardly here a word you're saying.

gheritt wrote:
It seems like the Apocalypso dropping in is the cause of the power failure that ties all these axon stories together.

I suspect that this is the case, there is some sort of electro-magnetic pulse associated with the re-entry of an interstellar ship from Slipspace. I'd be interested to hear from anyone who has read the Halo novels with support or argument against this possibility.

If it is the case that the appearance of the Apocalypso is the cause of the "massive power outage" that occurs in many of our audio fragments, we get an event that ties many of these short storylines together.

(blip)
Officer: Hold on. Hold on, wait a second, what the hell just happened?
Frank: Massive power interrupt. Just automatically flipped us to threat condition bravo.
--
(dizzy)
Jersey: Restarting? What the? Oh man, the whole friggin' system just collapsed! Jeannie, is the equipment okay?
--
(parasites)
Hiroyuki: Hello? Hello, are you there?
Kamal: What the hell happened?
Hiroyuki: I don't know, the connection went dead for a few seconds.

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