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[AryMcKade]

[SPEC] Three Swords - Cortana/Dana/?

[zerosknightmare]

i love your thinking the best idea yet

[zerosknightmare]

why do they call this the haunted apiary.

[SecondSundodger]

Does Joyeuse go by any other names? I'm wondering if any of these swords will work in the way yellowbrickroad did (though so far joyeuse.html, cortana.html, durandal.html and durandana.html do not).

[sam]

Here's another couple of names to through in the mix - D3V3ST8R's comments are pretty good.

http://www.pantheon.org/articles/d/durandal.html

There's a Greek link there too, as Durandal first belonged to Hector.

Also (from [url=http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:L-UvCK40CzQJ:izb.knu.ac.kr/~bh/new_bh/study/Linux/NetHack_Guide-KLDP/c241.html+Jutmundus&hl=en)]gigantor URL[/url]

DURANDAL(DURANDANA, DURINDANA, DURENDAL) Magic sword of Roland(Orlando). Reputed to have been given to him by Charlemagne; to have been captured by Roland from the giant Jutmundus; to have been the creation of fairies, who endowed it with such virtue its wielder could split a mountain with it. Compares Excalibur, Gram, Morglay. It once belonged to Hector; Roland took it from Jutmundus. In its hilt it had a drop of Saint Basil's blood, a hair of Saint Denis, thread of Virgin Mary's cloak, a tooth of Saint Peter. It was unbreakable and, when he knew he was doomed, Roland cast it into a poisoned stream, where it disappeared(thus heaven's light vanished). Equates with Excalibur.

CURTANA The sword of Edward the Confessor. Having no point it became an emblem of mercy and was borne before English kings at their coronation.

MJOLLNIR(MIOLNIR, MJOLNIR) war hammer(lawful). the war hammer which gives attack a shock effects. In Norse mythology the magic weapon of Thor. Short-handled hammer(smasher), which he used in peace and war, either to bless or shatter. It never missed that at which it was thrown, returned to its owner of its own accord, and became so small when not in use it fit into Thor's pocket. Lightning or thunderbolt symbolized by the swastika, and used as an amulet for healing and to keep demons away.

JOYEUSE A miraculous sword which appears in several romances of chivalry. The sword buried with Charlemagne(Charles the First, called the beginning of the Holy Roman Empire. 742 814. Son of Pepin the Short) was called Joyeuse. Typifies light rays.
Sam


(edited to fix huj url - krystyn)

[TheBiggestSean]

Actually there's just one problem...

If they (Covenant) are so affected by the Flood, why are they invading Earth? I would think that trying to destroy an entire race is a pretty piss-poor way to organize a cry for help... The swords thing is cool, and I had been dancing really close to similar efforts to tie other aspects of the game to Anglo-Saxxon/Celtic mythology, but I think he's off base in identifying the Durandal sword as the Covenant.

Why, I ask you, would a Covenant AI have ship logs and memories recorded from a human starship, as Meilssa seems to have? It's a very good question, and one you need to think about before we jump into accepting this theorey.

Obviously, he left one part out: MJOLNIR, the great hammer intended to send its opponents into a state of (heheh) shock and awe. The Master Chief wears "MJOLNIR" armor, and was part of a project known as "MJOLNIR", that was originally intent on capturing a Covenant leader to negotiate a cease fire of some sort... this would send a "shock" through the Covenant. See? Hammer = Master Chief.

The Narrator has also stopped complaining of its eight-legged problems... something that doesn't happen to many people infected by the Flood, but because "Melissa", "killed" the "Spider"... i.e., deleted her when she became to frustrating.

And we know that the Narrator of the site equated the "SPDR" protocol with a real spider, metaphorically, which may explain the eight legs. The Varrao mites are meant to referrence the flood, but I don't think they had affected the narrator of ilb site.... also, since the Flood is a biological entity, it would have a great amount of difficulty infecting an electronic one... don't you agree?

[sam]

Let's hope nobody makes an 'MC Hammer' Joke then eh?

sorry.

The Covenant weren't/aren't worried about the Flood - they're just interested in wiping out Humans. The Flood just happened to be on the Halo that MC visited in the game - a structure built by the forerunners (who may or may not have been the race from which 'humans' descended). All this is discussed elsewhere many many times. Sorry - no link, but I'd be linking to at least 1.3 zillion pages).

Sam

[Theorizer]

Re: [SPEC] Three Swords - Cortana/Dana/?

[Zanzibar]

[WhiteGulls]

Zanzibar: I sent her an email asking her that yesterday. Havn't recieved any sort of reply yet.

[Arashi]

Hmm

Have we considered asking the Sleeping Princess whether the name Joyeuse has any meaning to her? I mean, she can't remember her name...

I'll email it too... hope we can get it up on the 404 page


Edit: Um, yeh lol, what's the email address?

[Zanzibar]

ladybee777SPLAThotmail.com

That info is from http://www.ilovebees.com/contactme.html

[chaotic_mind]

ladybee777SPLAThotmail.com

That was originally Margaret's address, but it appears to have been hijacked by the irrespressible Princess.

Luke P.

edit- Too slow. Curse my metal body!

[WhiteGulls]

WARNING - REALLY, REALLY, RANDOM SPEC. DO NOT TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY DESPITE THE FACT THAT I'M ACTUALLY DOING THIS. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

Okay, enough with the caps.

Oh! We REALLY LIKE 7s! Maybe we should email it to her either seven times, or seven times in the same message? I'm gonna try the same message one! XD

/me resists urge to make a joke about making decisions accordingly after thie caps.

[Gram]

List of Legendary Swords:

(1) AGRICANE'S was called Tranchera. Afterwards BRANDEMART'S.
(2) ALI'S sword was Zulfagar.
(3) ANTONY'S was Philippan, so named from the battle of Philippi. (Shakespeare: Antony and Cleopatra, ii. 4.)
(4) ARTEGAL'S was called Chrysaor. (Spenser: Faërie Queene.)
(5) ARTHUR'S was called Escalibar, Excalibar, or Caliburn; given to him by the Lady of the Lake.
(6) SIR BEVIS'S OF HAMPTOUN was called Morglay.
(7) BITEROLF'S was called Schrit.
( BRAGGADOCHIO'S was called Sanglamore. (Faërie Queene.)
(9) CÆSAR'S was called Crocea Mors (yellow death). (See Commentaries, bk. iv. 4.)
" `Erat nomen gladio `Crocea Mors,' qua nullus eyadebat vivus qui eo vulnerabatur."- Geoffrey of Monmouth, iv. 4.
(10) CHARLEMAGNE'S were Joyeuse or Fusberta Joyosa, and Flamberge; both made by Galas.
(11) THE CID'S was called Colada; the sword Tizona was taken by him from King Bucar.
(12) CLOSAMONT'S was called Hauteclaire, made by Galas.
(13) DIETRICH'S was Nagelring.
(14) DOOLIN'S OF MAYENCE was called Merveilleuse (wonderful).
(15) ECK'S was called Sachu.
(16) EDWARD THE CONFESSOR'S was called Curtana (the cutter), a blunt sword of state carried before the sovereigns of England at their coronation, emblematical of mercy.
(17) ENGLISH KINGS' (the ancient) was called Curtana.
(1 FRITHIOF'S was called Angurvddel (stream of anguish).
(19) HACO I.'S OF NORWAY was called Quern-biter (foot-breadth).
(20) HIEME'S was called Blutgang. (21) HILDEBRAND'S was Brinnig.
(22) IRING'S was called Waskë.
(23) KOLL, THE THRALLS, Greysteel.
(24) LAUNCELOT OF THE LAKE'S, Aroundight.
(25) MAHOMET'S were called Dhu' l Fakar (the trenchant), a scimitar; Al Battar (the beater); Medham (the keen); Halef (the deadly).
(26) MAUGIS'S or MALAGIGI'S was called Flamberge or Floberge. He gave it to his cousin Rinaldo. It was made by Wieland.
(27) OGIER THE DANE'S, Courtain and Sauvagine, both made by Munifican.
"He [Ogier] drew Courtain, his sword, out of its sheath."- Morris: Earthly Paradise, 634.
(2 OLIVER'S was Haute-Claire.
(29) ORLANDO'S was called Durindana or Durindan, which once belonged to Hector, and is said to be still preserved at Rocamadour, in France.
(30) OTUEL'S was Corrougue (2 syl.).
(31) RINALDO'S was called Fusberta or Flamberge (2 syl.). (See above, Maugis.)
(32) ROGERO'S was called Balisarda. It was made by a sorceress.
(33) ROLAND'S was called Durandal, made by Munifican. This is the French version of Orlando and Durandana.
(34) SIEGFRIED'S was called Balmung, in the Nibelungen-Lied. It was made by Wieland. Also Gram. Mimung was lent to him by Wittich.
(35) SINTRAM'S was called Welsung.
(36) STRONG-I'-THE- ARM'S, Baptism, Florence, and Graban, by' Ansias.
(37) THORALF SKOLINSON'S- i.e. Thoralf the Strong, of Norway- was called Quern-biter (foot-breadth).
(3 WIELAND. The swords made by the divine blacksmith were Flamberge and Balmung.