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[jackisme]

[SPEC] Pious Flea and reflection issues...

[CoffeeJedi]

holy crap! a kilroy with:

1) a well written, well thought-out argument

2) supporting evidence in the form of quotes

3) a brand NEW theory that's not inane or rediculous

4) no mention whatsoever of Master Chief, Cortanna, Cpt. Keyes, the Covenant, or the Forerunners

WOW!

Jersey as the Pious Flea, as interpreted through commands.... while, it seems a bit of a stretch, I honestly can't deny the possibility... its very intriguing, the ONLY flaw is that the Flea's repeated mantra about the truth, it just doesn't jive with Jersey's questions to Durga (yes, i know he's asking for the truth) but its the mantra-like way the Flea repeats himself... commands like !attach !grope make sense, but religous nature of the Fleas's little code wouldn't be generated internally by the computer interpretting Jersey's questions, ya know? am i making any sense here?

[Hyperion]

Very interesting.

Jersey as the Flea doesn't make much sense to me, but Durga as the Flea is quite possible. Durga is constantly trying to figure out what it is, and it's searching for answers could be interpreted by the SP (whom I believe is Jersey's old AI) and the Queen as the types of commands they are seeing.

This led me into another, slightly different [SPEC], but I'll have to think about it more before posting it up.

[jackisme]

Many thanks for the props, and I take your point about the Flea and Jersey seeming completely different in disposition. I admit I got a bit de-railed in my larger point in the post when I thought of the jersey-as-flea idea (one should never think while posting ). Mainly, I wanted to emphasize a possible connection between Durga's reflection issues and Princess' mention of the mirror in her allegory. Jersey's description (and durga's reaction) of the game with the mirror he played as a child just seems so significant. I'm nearly convinced that the Flea or the Princess is an invention in the pursuit of re-creating that game.

I think Jan's dad is the Mater Chief. /joking

[Atrophied]

Good theory...

one small problem, it's [SPEC] not [PUZZLE] therefore is in the wrong thread. Mods, movement?

[CoffeeJedi]

yeah, i noticed he posted in the wrong spot too... but the rest of the post was good, so i let it slide

oh and Jack, get it right man, you should have said

"OMFG!!!!! JANISAARERARY'S DAD IS TEH MAZTER CHEF!!!!11!!!11!!!@#"

[ScarpeGrosse]

Moving Thread

[raw19]

jackisme, I like it. I've been working on the connection between the future Jersey / Durga story line and what's been happening with Melissa on ilovebees.

The Flea as a representaiton of Jersey? hm.

Check this out for my interpretation of the connection.

[jackisme]

Mea culpa for originally posting in the wrong place.

If we think of the Pious Flea as an agent or a process operating at the behest of Jersey, then its mantra-driven nature can still make sense. The mantra could be more a set of principles that guide it in its application and usage of !commands and operations. Or: its frequent spam of those commands could be an overture to the Princess or Queen. "Hello... Talk to me... We are not unlike in kind... Please like me!" Its possible to construct a number of rationales for the Flea's usage of the mantra.

The larger problem with my half-baked theory is the idea of who or what the Princess is at this point. Why does she dislike the Flea? Why is the Flea so interested in her? Those questions are larger than the question of is-Jersey-the-Flea.

Numeric summations of wild speculation seem to be in vogue, so here goes:

1. Jersey is the Flea.
2. The Queen is Durga and possibly/probably Melissa.
3. The Queen doesn't really know what she is.
3. The Flea is therefore benevolent, attempting mainly to help the Queen get around the reflection issues.
4. The Priness is somehow key to the Queen/Durga/Melissa's attempts to uncover her nature/origin.

In any case, there's just not enough data right now to draw any conclusions.

[GunsmithCat]

[jackisme]