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(SPEC) Wavs take place after the war with the Covenent
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PuddingTame
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 		(SPEC) Wavs take place after the war with the Covenent
OK, first post, I hope it goes well.

In the Asset wav., you hear the cop who's blackmailing Jan say the when he was her age he pulled strings so that he could join up a year early so that he could help save humanity. If the Covenent were the first alien race(s) encounted by human kind then it's pretty much safe to assume that he's talking about the war with the Covenent.

Also of relevence to this speculation is the importance of what J2 says to Jan (in a non-bragging tone) in the Code Nothing wav. That in his unit he served with the best, which could be taken to mean a few things.

1.) That he is a Spartan II, which would also help explain the fake identity he has. (Think Marathon)

2.) That he was in a unit associated with a Spartan. (Like the ODST's in the Halo demo movie)

Also of note, the cop in the Miracles wav. says that when Jan was a baby that she was shot with a needle full of miracles that made her strong, fast smart, unable to get drunk ect. Leading me to believe that Jan is almost without a doubt an SIII.

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Bubba Wilkins
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 		Unfortunately, there is additional information which directly contradicts this speculation.

The second set of four axons (recipe3) revealed that Troy was evacuated only months before that conversation took place.

The imbedded text on ILB clearly indicates that Troy got glassed.

IF we assume all the wavs are from the same time period, then they occur during the war (possibly early in the war).

The "join up to save humanity thing" could be applied to any global military that exists for earth's defense.

additional axons will probably clear this up.

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Bubba Wilkins wrote:
The "join up to save humanity thing" could be applied to any global military that exists for earth's defense.


Or, if you read 'humanity' as the Asimov's Zeroth Law type of humanity, the functioning of society as a whole (anyone seen I, Robot?) then joining the police force is saving humanity, in your own way. Though admittedly in sci-fi contexts it is more usually used in a "join the war effort" sense (Starship Troopers stylee).
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 		Re: (SPEC) Wavs take place after the war with the Covenent
PuddingTame wrote:
In the Asset wav., you hear the cop who's blackmailing Jan say the when he was her age he pulled strings so that he could join up a year early so that he could help save humanity.


Also, as others have noted before, the first real battle with the Covenenat is (will be!) 7 Oct. 2525, and Reach falls on 30 Aug. 2552. That's almost 27 years, which is more than enough time for the cop to be talking about the Covenant war.

(From the Halo Story page: http://halosm.bungie.org/story/for.timeline.html)
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Mazian
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sherpa wrote:
Bubba Wilkins wrote:
The "join up to save humanity thing" could be applied to any global military that exists for earth's defense.


Or, if you read 'humanity' as the Asimov's Zeroth Law type of humanity, the functioning of society as a whole (anyone seen I, Robot?) then joining the police force is saving humanity, in your own way. Though admittedly in sci-fi contexts it is more usually used in a "join the war effort" sense (Starship Troopers stylee).


As an additional bit of Halo-trivia in support of sherpa, in Halo: The Fall of Reach, the Spartans are created not to fight the Convenant, but to save humanity from escalating civil wars. Humanity was already tearing itself apart before the Covanent found it.

Thus, by joining the military (or the police force), the perspective of the enlistedmen/officer would be that they are "saving humanity."

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