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[UPDATE] ROUND 3 AXONS (9/3): fable.html
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aliendial
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 		This chart shows the 6:27 PDT axon as existing but not hot this time. This is not true. We did not find this axon last time. We do not know it exists.

Hopefully a lot of these will be addressed this weekend, when people can get away.
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 		Reading aspmaster's table
aliendial wrote:
This chart shows the 6:27 PDT axon as existing but not hot this time. This is not true. We did not find this axon last time. We do not know it exists.

Small misunderstanding here ... when an axon is labelled as existing in aspmaster's chart (the cell is filled in with red), this means it was present in the axons given in that round, not that it was found in that round. The only indication that I interpret as meaning that an axon was actually found in a previous round is if it went HOT. I only highlighted yellow (and listed in my previous post) axons that went HOT in a previous round (I'm using the allcaps for hot because that is how it appears in the table).
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 		Re: knoxville
Aspmaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
i'm not sure where to put this, but i want someone (possibly PMs) to be aware that there are about ten of us who have been searching for the phone every day since Tuesday in Knoxville (and the axon has already gone hot, we know):

smarter
Time: 13:57 Long: -083.926626 Lat: 36.025135
Location: Knoxville, Tennessee, United States

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Are you sure that the Knoxville Axon has gone HOT? another clip


I think he's meaning that Smarter has already been unlocked. I just looked right now and our co-ords are still up.

Nevertheless, I'll add in that the GPS co-ordinates are pointing almost exactly at a pair of payphones at a Pilot station, though as tycho said we expanded our search quite a bit. I'm not sure what to make of it other than that there is simply a misnumber happening.

Possibly, and I just now thought of this, there could be old-phone-confusion in the realm of area codes instead of just phone numbers. Over the past decade, we've gone from being part of 423 to being a big swarth of 615, but now we reside in 865, which is only the Greater Knoxville Area. Could be Mel's calling the right number in the wrong area code...

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 		Re: knoxville
tycho wrote:
none of the phones in the vicinity of the coordinate are ringing at the given time, and we've tried 5 of them...there is one more down at the next intersection.


Hi tycho,
You say none of the phones rang, but did you wait about 15 seconds after the time came and then pick up the receiver anyway? If you didn't, then try that. Please see my post here: SFAxonHunters

Good luck!
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 		Re: knoxville
TridenT wrote:
Aspmaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
i'm not sure where to put this, but i want someone (possibly PMs) to be aware that there are about ten of us who have been searching for the phone every day since Tuesday in Knoxville (and the axon has already gone hot, we know):

smarter
Time: 13:57 Long: -083.926626 Lat: 36.025135
Location: Knoxville, Tennessee, United States

clip


Are you sure that the Knoxville Axon has gone HOT? another clip


I think he's meaning that Smarter has already been unlocked. I just looked right now and our co-ords are still up.

Nevertheless, I'll add in that the GPS co-ordinates are pointing almost exactly at a pair of payphones at a Pilot station, though as tycho said we expanded our search quite a bit. I'm not sure what to make of it other than that there is simply a misnumber happening.

Possibly, and I just now thought of this, there could be old-phone-confusion in the realm of area codes instead of just phone numbers. Over the past decade, we've gone from being part of 423 to being a big swarth of 615, but now we reside in 865, which is only the Greater Knoxville Area. Could be Mel's calling the right number in the wrong area code...

Using www.payphone-directory.org, you find these in Knoxville, TN
865-687-9831...Big Lots Shopping Center......4800 N Broadway...near wholesale food store*
865-687-9723...Big Lots Shopping Center......4800 N Broadway...near CVS pharmacy*
865-688-9417...Big Lots Shopping Center......4800 N Broadway...center of shopping center*
865-687-9790...Big Lots Shopping Center......4800 N Broadway...center of shopping center*
865-687-9904...Big Lots Shopping Center......4800 N Broadway...center of shopping center*
865-688-8756...Phillips 66...................4800 N Broadway...outside*
865-687-9597...Pilot Oil Station ............4800 N Broadway...outside*
865-687-9862...Pilot Oil Station ............4800 N Broadway...outside*

Putting 4800 N Broadway Knoxville, TN into URL gives the exact coords of
Lat: 36.025135 36:01:30.486N
Lon: -083.926626 83:55:35.854W
Which is a perfect match.

So, Melissa should be calling one of those 8 phones (yah, take a crew). Make sure those are the correct phone#s. If not, update the site here: http://payphone-directory.org/cgi-bin/changepayphone and Melissa will get it right the next round. (This method worked perfectly for the one site here in Boise that was having trouble and has worked well for many others also).

Also, if one of the phone #s is incorrect, try calling the phone# listed here and finding out where it is. Then go there to receive the call. This has also worked for multiple groups.

EDIT - Ginormous URL - SG
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 		TridenT,
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Nevertheless, I'll add in that the GPS co-ordinates are pointing almost exactly at a pair of payphones at a Pilot station, though as tycho said we expanded our search quite a bit.


1) Do those two phones have numbers that are reported on the http://payphone-directory.org website? My theory is that if they are not listed, they will not ring.

2) Can you physically account for each of the 8 phone numbers listed for 4800 N Broadway on payphone-directory.org? My theory is that it doesn't matter if the phone locations do not match the GPS coordinates. It just has to be one of the phone numbers listed on the payphone-directory.org site. Some of the 8 numbers may not even be at Broadway...but I think that it does not matter.

I say focus on the phone numbers that are associated with the 4800 N Broadway, Knoxville, TN, since that address exactly matches the GPS coordinates you were given on ilovebees. (36.025135) (-83.926626). Call these phone numbers and make sure you know where they are physically located.

p.s. I tried the 8 numbers and 3 of them didn't work right on my end of the phone. (the 1st, 3rd and 4th phone numbers.)

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 		Re: Critical Axons
xnbomb wrote:
EDIT: This strategy assumes aspmaster's table is correct.


Hey xnbomb,

Thanks for putting that list together. Actually, I spent a lot of time going through all of the axons again yesterday, and noticed some things. I wrote VBA to calculate the number of cells that have a red background so I could get a total number of axons. I have not added that to the version online yet.

By doing this, I noticed the calculations were off on ILB, which is what prompted me to ask what happened to the missing axons. Well, I am attaching a list of axons that I have found, which appeared in the first set of axons we got on the links.html page, but not seen again in other sets of axons. Notice that some of these axons went hot. I am wondering if these are the missing axons that are unaccounted for.

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 		Are we losing credit for axons not gotten twice?
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 		#31 on the missing_axons spreadsheet is:
43.569299 -116.214454
It had an incorrect phone# in round1. After an update to payphone-directory.org it became:
43.569230 -116.214455
and went hot in rounds 2 and 3.

It is now missing from the axons we have for round 4 though: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6382 taking team Boise back to 2 axons for next week Crying or Very sad

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Are we losing credit for axons not gotten twice?

Maybe. The idea is to locate her crew, right? Well, if I were to find a missing crewmember who answered once then never answered successive communications, I would assume that they have been lost again and discount them. Maybe Melissa is doing the same.
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 		raleigh again...
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07:37 PDT
35.750236 -078.633401
(Raleigh NC)

I tried hunting this one down again. I drove back out to the coordinates, recorded the name of every business around there, then came home and plugged everything into www.payphone-project.com. I came up with a payphone number for K & L Scrap Yard, which is directly on the coordinates. But when I called the number, I got a disconnected message. Sad I emailed the guy that runs the payphone project site so he could update.

This one's a wash, y'all.

(Too bad, too...I see it's on next week's list... Raspberry )

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 		I feel your pain weephun.
The Madison axon I worked so hard to locate, and today finally made go hot for the first time, is now missing for round 4!

So now Madison, WI is officially down to only one axon for the next round; the axon in University Square.

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 		zaeil,
Don't worry so much about the coordinates, you've got to find the payphone that matches the phone number in http://payphone-directory.org site.

I notice there is only one Raleigh, NC phone number that has an address listed on http://payphone-directory.org. 919-836-9523 at 819 W Morgan St.

Plugging in this address into the Geocode.com Test drive Eagle website (http://www.geocode.com/modules.php?name=TestDrive_Eagle), you get the EXACT coordinates you were given on ilovebees.


You say you did not find a phone that has the 919-836-9523 phone number on it, right?

Well then I think you'll need to keep trying to call the phone number until someone picks up and tells you where the phone is located.

I called the number and it rings on my end.

I think it is imperative you keep calling the phone number and leting it ring if you want to find it.

Good luck.

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 		eb-

Uh, no, that's NOT the phone, or the correct coordinates. The coordinates for THAT phone, according the Test Drive Eagle, are 35.779825, -078.651398; the coordinates I'm looking for are 35.750236, -078.633401, which maps to 2310 Garner Road, Raleigh, NC...K & L Scrap, which I found a number for. A number which has been disconnected!

Furthermore, not all of the axons in Raleigh are coming from payphone-directory.org. If they were, they'd all be on the NCSU campus, and they aren't. One is at the Museum of History; another is downtown on South Wilmington. (I know because I've been to BOTH of these axons.) Neither of these phones is on that list! BUT...they ARE in payphone-project.com.

So no offense, but I really think you're wrong on that one.

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eb wrote:
1) Do those two phones have numbers that are reported on the http://payphone-directory.org website? My theory is that if they are not listed, they will not ring.


While the payphone-directory is a great resource for most axons, your theory is contradicted by some axons. The axon in Davis CA is not listed in the payphone-directory. It has been successfully answered in all three previous axon sets, and is inlcuded in set 4. In fact, the directory lists only ONE of the many tens of payphones in this college town of 65,000 people. Melissa must have other resources besides payphone-directory for finding phones to contact her "crew".
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 		I stand corrected.
Thanks! Embarassed

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