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HitsHerMark
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 		[SPEC?]"Influencing the source..." Influencing...
Okay, I thought this was kind of a given, but I guess not.

I've expressed this opinion elsewhere, but it's never been discussed on it's own so I'm putting it out here.

on aboutme.html, Melissa says,
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Transmission Analysis:

Mission Parameters: I must reveal the truth.

Successful transmission threshold:
[insert number of hot axons to unlock for current round] recipients.

Outbound:
My broadcast system is functional and expanding.
I will transmit to my crew daily until further instructions are received.

Inbound:
The voices are of unknown origin
New voices are intercepted weekly.
I will continue my analysis and attempt to influence the source.


On this page, she's talking about her transmissions to the axons, to us.

Her mission parameters are to reveal the truth. (To us as well as herself? We are the ones she's transmitting to through her axons.)

Inbound voices, i.e. - us answering the phones, are unknown to her. Because she's trying to find her crew, we are not her crew, but we are the ones who answer the phones. She doesn't recognise the voices answering the phones, but we know the right things to say, naturally, she's curious about who who we all are.

New axons are added on a weekly basis, and new people with new unfamiliar voices answer them.

Therefore, she wants to find out and influence the source of US.

Is that an unreasonable conclusion to come to?
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Martin The Great
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 		Well I sure as hell am influenced already. I can't stop talking about bees and how much I love them in front of my friends, but I doubt she meant that.

Maybe she meant releasing more axons and influencing our opinion on Mel and her friends by playing those to us?

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 		Re: [SPEC?]"Influencing the source..." Influencin
HitsHerMark wrote:
on aboutme.html, Melissa says,
Quote:
Outbound:
My broadcast system is functional and expanding.
I will transmit to my crew daily until further instructions are received.

Inbound:
The voices are of unknown origin
New voices are intercepted weekly.
I will continue my analysis and attempt to influence the source.

Inbound voices, i.e. - us answering the phones, are unknown to her. Because she's trying to find her crew, we are not her crew, but we are the ones who answer the phones. She doesn't recognise the voices answering the phones, but we know the right things to say, naturally, she's curious about who who we all are.

New axons are added on a weekly basis, and new people with new unfamiliar voices answer them.

Therefore, she wants to find out and influence the source of US.

Is that an unreasonable conclusion to come to?

Unreasonable? Not at all. However, the selfsame text appeared on about.html on August 24, when the axons first went hot, before any of us had answered so much as a single phone. (Back when the successful transmission threshold was only two recipients, remember? The only change in the text you quote is the addition of the line "New voices are intercepted weekly," which showed up on August 31.) For this reason, I don't think that we are the inbound voices to which Melissa is referring.

On hives.html, Melissa says, among other things:

Melissa wrote:
I hear a jumble of voices in my head.

Conjecture:
The voices are in some way related to my accident.
Because of the damage, I am unable to accurately assess the nature of the voices.
By broadcasting the voices to my crew, they will be able to assess the damage.

I believe that the transmissions Melissa is sending us -- outbound -- are the very same transmissions that she is receiving -- inbound -- and then passing on to us, whom she believes to be her crew. Of course, that doesn't solve the larger puzzle: What is the original source of these transmissions? (And, for that matter, when is the original source of these transmissions?)
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 		I've been thinking about this theory. Before I thought that we were the inbound voices, but now I realize that wouldn't make sense. We are not inbound, because we are not calling her, we are only answering her phonecalls. So maybe her attempt at influencing the source, is influencing Durga to think about bees. But I am in agreement that inbound is the sound files coming from Durga.

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 		I am not so sure it's getting her or durga to think about bees. I think it's to try and sort out the voices into connected memories. However I don't see how us answering the phones will do that for melissa. we are peacing together the memories ourselves but we are not sending them back to melissa. our communication is limited to only answering her inqueries. my only thoughts about how this helps melissa is that as we activate her memories she is also peacing them together as we are. The source she refers to is her own broken memories flooding her with bits and peaces. Dana even hints at this in her blog.
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 		Re: [SPEC?]"Influencing the source..." Influencin
Melissa wrote:
Inbound:
The voices are of unknown origin
New voices are intercepted weekly.
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.
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Conjecture:
The voices are in some way related to my accident.
Because of the damage, I am unable to accurately assess the nature of the voices.
By broadcasting the voices to my crew, they will be able to assess the damage.

I've pointed this out before. If the inbound voices over which Melissa puzzles were us answering the phones, then when we answered her question(s) correctly at an axon, we would hear her broadcasting WAVs of us answering questions at prior axons. We aren't. Thus, the inbound voices, the ones Melissa is broadcasting to her crew, are the WAVs of Durga in the future ghosting Jan and Kamal. In addition, Shad0 has an excellent point I had not thought of before. The text on about.html did change on 8/31, but only in small ways; the original 8/24 text did talk about recieving voices of unknown origin. That was up before any of us had any clue that answering payphones was the way to heat an axon, so the voices at that point certainly can't have been us.
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sherpa
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 		Pretty sure this is new (she seems to add more information each week), on hives.html Melissa has added
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I will store copies of the voices for future analysis.

to her 'Situation Analysis'.

This could be used either way on the "are the inbound voices us or the WAVs?" front, but it seems to me more logical that she would store the voices she hears in her head, and then sends to us, so that we can help her figure out what they are. Recording the calls she makes is a bit creepy, but all it would give her is some bad quality voice of someone saying 'Operator' and one or two other words.. not really useful if they already have all that voice talent IMO.
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 		I've kinda come to the conclusion that the "influence the source" might be as simple as the fact that Melissa isn't always using the same pay phones.

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