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Re: [SPEC] Kumal's Sister=Sleeping Princess

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[DeceptaconS]

Wow.... that last post was awesome... Mystery solved. Kamal's Sister is the Sleeping Princess. Let that be Fact.

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[AlexofMaceidon]

Thanks for all the gratitude on the initial post guys, and I do apologize for my spelling, this whole thing hit my like a ton of bricks while I was having dinner last night, and I needed to write it down before I forgot the finer detals that make the theory so friggen cool.

As for this multipul personality buisiness, I really think that she was a whole, real person before she was an AI (why would the miltiary take a girl with Multipul Personality Disorder into a program for exceptionally cool human beings like a Spartan-III type program?)

I think what really happened, was that the miltiary somehow took all of the logical parts of the brain they could, and stuck the rest in the glass coffin. They couldn't do this perfectly, so Durga still has some human parts to her, which is why her intractions with Jersey can take a very human tone ("I am a very curious girl") also, if the coffin was perfect, Durga probably would have had her own computer type name, and she never would have had to wonder about why she is reflected.

So Durga (we can assume at this point) is a fully functional (if imperfect) version of the thing that is infecting ilovebees, but in the crash, somehow the progging was maimed and KS's emotions were bottled away. The queen doesn't want her out of the coffin, because she knows its wrong for KS to be out (probably some strange progging protocol added in) so she desperatley (how do you spell that, maybe I should type these posts in word so I can spell check 'em first) trys to catch our little SP and shove her back in a fixed coffin.

So there you go, I think the multiple personalties were cause by the military trying to take only what they wanted from the human brain, not from nature, or bed time stories.

but I wish I had some more evidence to back this up.

As for age, I'm pretty sure she would be refering to the fact that she existed before PF and Melissa, as a human.

Question: where did this seven year age for AI's come from? Is it another thing from the Halo books?


PS: I am really psyched about the response on this thread, I honestly expected to be told to shit down and shut up because 120 people had thought that up already and it had been soundly disproven as well.

[themill]

There is a small problem of consistency within the universe. All we really know about the characters in this world is the contact we've had with them and the information we've obtained by means of Halo (such as the manual or the novels). The other really important thing is Occam's Razor. We know that "genetically ideal" people were taken at or around the age of six for introduction into the Spartan Program (I believe this is in the Fall of Reach, but I'm not sure).
Conclusion from the wav files: Kamal's sister was "perfect" and was taken. The creation of an AI program from a child seems to me to be very unlikely. While it would explain personality quirks in the Sleeping Princess, the question is: why would they make an AI out of a child? Sure, it makes a great plot device, but Bungie it seems to me has always been more practical.
The other thing I don't tend to believe is the merging of the Durga/SP AIs. First of all, we have no proof that Durga is in fact in the same position as anyone(thing?) on ILB. In fact, we have some proof that this is not true.

[AlexofMaceidon]

ok, Ill admit that my entire theory hinges on the creation of AI out of a human, but not necessarily a 6-year-old girl. Once the flash clone is created and sent off, they could have given Ysmine (kumal's sister's name, I went on to the sight and looked it up myself, as far as spelling goes, my guess is as good as anyone elses) training up to any point until they stuck her mind into a computer and sealed off her human emotions. As a matter of fact, they may have just finished her, and she immediately escaped to Jersey (the survive, evade, whatever montra is probably from her military training days) but I like to think she was being used by the government, and she wanted to know more about herself, and she knew she'd never find out more with these people, so she escaped.

At what age was Kumal when his sister died, my bet would be 11-12, as he was very pal-y with her, which suggests he hadn't gone through puberty at the time (teenagers are so anxy). He has now graduated medical school. They probably trained her for so long, and then stuck her mind into a computer. (as for being able to do this, if you can interface a human with cybernetic parts that interact directly to the brain, I think its a small jump to take that brain and make it all just the machine parts)

As to the reasone why, this is very simple. You must have heard your elementary school teacher tell you this a million times. "Your brain is the most powerful computer" do you realize that programming a machine with the capabilities of your mind is probably imposible? Your brain can analyze any situation, come up with an appropriate reasponce, all in the matter of a few seconds. Why wouldn't you want to harness that kind of power in an AI designed for spy work?

The SP wouldn't have to be a child's mind, so much as a human's desires, and this human's desires definitly would have been for a long lost childhood, stolen by the government.

As for your "evidence" those voices are probably a memory failure on Melissa's part, memory that she accumulated as Durga. Haven't you noticed that the ONLY common link between these 3 people is the observation of Durga?

you said that you think SP came abourd on the covenent artifact, but that is so obviously the PF. The PF destroyed the SPDF, why? because the SPDF's purpose was to fix Melissa, a thing that a covenant program designed to mess up chatters wouldn't want. also notice the change in Melissa/Durga's montra from Survive Evade Reveal Escape, adding in Seek the truth, Behold the Truth, Reveal the Truth. so sometimes you'll see on the sight Survive Evade Reveal Seek, or some other strange combination of the seven things. The Flea is obviously messing up Melissa on a very basic level. As for the size thing, just because Pious flea is little in the progging world, doesnt mean that he's not big in the real world.

The size of that cylinder has nothing to do with the size of the program, and how else do you suppose PF made it into the system, if not by way of that cylinder, and why project a program into the ai, if its stuck in a coffin until the ship is crashed and destroyed...

it seems your theory has more plot holes then mine.

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Sister's name

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Re: Sister's name

[Platonix]

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[CountZero]

[AlexofMaceidon]

Count Zero, I love you.

You took my random theories from my 3rd post and backed them up with storyline evidence from the halo books... I would hug you if you were near enough.

And as refering to the artifact, looking back at the "artifact" tape in recipe3.html, we see that Melissa had a case of the "pious fleas" before they found the artifact, so my argument in that respect collapses in on itself.

sorry there platonix.

well its late for me, and I have high school on the morrow. Ill probably get back on next saturday. Hope to see you guys then.