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[SpghEddy]

[INFO] [SPEC] ILB and Halo timeline - what it tells us

[m0tive]

Its actually Jericho VII. Just want to clear that up to avoid confusion.


EDIT: Jan is 17

[Browncow]

Hey, long time lurker, first time poster ...

If Kamal's sister is a Spartan-II and if ILB is the set up for Halo 2 then maybe Kamal's sister is Kelly the Spartan Dr. Halsey kidnapped to do some important mission with. Maybe that mission will be an important part of Halo 2?

[skybruin]

This may have been discussed elsewhere but Here is a spec. Trout me if you will, Bears like trout!

James James and his unit are Former members of the spartan projects(or even the Ackerson backup plan hinted at on page 103 of the first strike novell). J^2 and Jan's Mom fell in love when in the program and got pregnant against orders producing Janissary. Instead of condemming Jan to a life of experimentation, James and his unit escape the project and hide on earth as "normal" citizens. Jan's mom dies in child birth and Jan is raised by James.

Also specualtion could also be that Jan is kumals sister and was "replaced"with a clone. either spec would fit this model if james and his unit have the same basic desire, to see jan free of a life of experimentation from the secret project. both would lead to James and his unit hiding on earth.

Thoughts?

[Scumbag]

[SecondSundodger]

The timing seems to make it possible for Jannissary to be Kumal's sister, and that said sister was then replaced with a flash clone (Kumal's sister was, what, 4 years younger than Kumal, and Jan is 17, which would make Kumal 21, the plausible age of a med student). However, wouldn't that make Jan a member of a Spartan III (or some type of geno-soldier project) program? I'm not so sure she is. Seems that her parents were a part of a program and she inherited the traits from birth (whether or not passing on Spartan II gifts through generations is possible I don't know). There's also been spec elsewhere that Kumal's sister died because she was flash cloned, but that her original person was used for an AI, not a Spartan-like program.

Ultimately, we still can't rule anything out (or in, for that matter - though I think we can safely assume, for the time being, that Kumal's sister was a flash clone, and her original person was used for some reason).

[Cherry Cotton]

The problem is that the Stupid Cop mentioned that "when you were a baby, somebody stuck you with a needle full of miracles" or something like that, rather than implying that she was "tweaked" from birth.

[Daffy889]

Re: [INFO] [SPEC] ILB and Halo timeline - what it tells us

[princeofthesword]

Great spec folks. I'm waiting for the movie to come out (Max Damage's cool gathering of the .wavs) before I start to spec too much, but I'll throw my change on the table. Or rather, give some info to fuel to fire.

There's a post at HBO http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=467643 that has a long discussion about the timelines of First Strike, crystals, etc. But it also talks about the black ops of Doctor Halsey, and mentions some inconsistencies about the number of Spartans who survived the augmentation process as opposed to those who were supposed to survive.

Sadly, I must also point out a conversation between Eric Nylund and I THINK it was Eric Trautmann that there was a typo in the books that messed up the number of total Spartans, not by much though. Like, three or four, I believe. Agh, that's probably just my faulty memory. But anyway, the above link is worth a read about the Spartans, even if you don't buy it and you ignore the timeline stuff.

I LOVE the idea of Jan being a daughter of a Spartan team, perhaps some that weren't able to keep fighting after the augmentation process. Genetic "tweaking" is a lot different from cybernetic enhancements, though I do point out that most high-ranking personel in the Haloverse have cybernetic neural nets of sorts interfacing with their minds. The "Neural Lace," and not much is known about it. More informed minds, shed more light. Neural laces do not let you jump off of buildings though, they just help you communicate, store info, interface with some AIs, etc. So "tweak" must mean something different. What, exactly, is the question, isn't it?

I'm rambling, so I'll start shambling instead and find breakfast before I try to think anymore. Good luck all, farewell.

[pcs me]

In regards to the first post in this thread, what Lieutenant are you referring to? I went back and read through TFoR and Jericho getting glassed, but can't figure out which Lt you're talking about. Thanks for helping me understand!

[Shad0]

Re: [INFO] [SPEC] ILB and Halo timeline - what it tells us

[pcs me]

(Slaps forehead) Thanks! I've got to pay more attention to the .wavs.

[Browncow]

Re: [INFO] [SPEC] ILB and Halo timeline - what it tells us

[Shad0]