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[Arashi]

For sure???

Jeez, I REALLY am out of the loop

[J214]

The PF is still looking for the princess

[Nuriko]

Re: The PF is still looking for the princess

[J214]

True..but never on the 404 error page before...You would think the flea would know where the SP is locked up at, that is if he's on the Queens side. I wonder if this could be remnants of when the SP was captured?

I know I might be reading too much into it but nothing else is going on.

[Rob]

It's a [SPEC]-spectacular. Okay, watch the monkey attempt some reasoning:

Posit: GOOD is keeping the location of Earth a secret and trying to suppress the activities of the Covenant. BAD is telling the alien scum where to find Earth and assisting their attack.

Posit: Queen Melissa is GOOD, Flea is BAD.
Melissa is showing signs of having been compromised by Flea, which means that we must also assume that she is now BAD. We can further assume that if she was a human AI in service on a naval vessel, removing the influence of the Flea would be good for Earth.

Posit: Queen Melissa is GOOD, Flea is GOOD.
The Pious Flea's not a great orator, so it's hard to determine his motivations. However, he's helping Melissa hunt Princess, and he may have been complicit in the destruction of SPDR, an otherwise valuable resource. Further, there is antagonism between Melissa and Princess. In all, it seems unlikely that Flea is good for Earth.

Posit: PRINCESS is GOOD.
There are some signs in support of a GOOD Princess. She was communicating with us, and provided us with a lot of data about the status of her environment. In general, transparency is good. She gave us access to data that Melissa withheld. She's probably linked in some way to Durga, who is both likeable and good for Earth (or one particular Earthling, anyway).

Posit: PRINCESS is BAD.
She was a prisoner when we met her. She's been evading Queen Melissa. She threatened Dana. If we assign her the role of the Forerunner artifact (or some software entity that came from it), there's still no reason to assume that the Forerunners would a) automatically dislike the Covies or b) care particularly whether they found Earth. This doesn't make her a good-for-Earth entity. On the other hand, if we assign her the role of a Covenant AI, she's definitely bad for Earth.

Conclusions:
1. MELISSA is fundamentally GOOD, but probably compromised, and therefor UNKNOWN.
2. FLEA is probably BAD.
3. PRINCESS is UNKNOWN, since we have too little conclusive data about her motivations.

Given the situation, the only unambiguous goal is the try to suppress the influence of the FLEA wherever possible. Beyond that, we should try to gather more data in support of firming up the other conclusions.

Please, feel free to add ideas in support of one conclusion or another. My Halo-mythos and ILB-mythos knowledge has lots of holes. Also, what actions can the officers and crew actually take to help suppress the FLEA?
R.

Edit: Here are a couple of good suggestions on attacking the Flea...http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=76228#76228

[kaos_engr]

killer.jpg's still via direct link

[Digiwizzard]

[Rob]

[Karmic]

Actually, I believe it was Melissa/Queen that threatened Dana, early on as she was just awakening.

Check out thebruce's archive, search for "Young and out of uniform" for the passage.

[Mazian]

Re: Way to sell out the Sleeping Princess...

[Mazian]

[Mazian]

Re: Perdita's Story

[Ceantari]

I'm determined to help the SP alot. She's been good to me. I've received all of her emails (except her initial email contact), including this recent one from yesterday. I've replied with tons of emails, and she responded to one of them (the one about Team SF/BA); in return she posted my handle on her last '404 Error' message.

She's been good to us. If not for her, we wouldn't have known of the ONI officials and Ronnie.

And she can't be a Forerunner AI: she's too American, and knows too many fairy tales. C'mon, would a Forerunner AI (like 343 Guilty Spark) be able to tell fairy tales?

And here's a theory I'll try to help save the Sleeping Princess:

She quotes in her plea: "...Keep looking for me! Tell them, they can talk to me whenever she falls apart! Tell them to call my name! Tell them it's the only..." If, after all the members of Team SF/BA become registered crewmembers of Melissa, and she still does another go-around for the roster, I'll spend a live-call on this attempt. If she doesn't recognized my voice on the payphone, I'll ask for the Sleeping Princess. Else, I wait until after Melissa "falls apart", and find some means to call out the Sleeping Princess.

I'm determined to help as much to either entity (SP, Melissa, etc.) to further the story along. Basically, I guess being 'Chaotic Neutral' would suit me ^_^

[garamir]

Re: I found this Hope its not a trout

[WhiteGulls]