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[SPEC/QUESTION] Submit Questions to Melissa
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Mazian
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Aelith wrote:
Very good questions guys! I wish I could add to them. The things I want to know are for a little later. I'm still struck by how fast she condemed Danna and wonder if Melissa had just become aware of a sabatour/assasin at the time of the whatever sent her back in time. I wonder why she thought a human traitor was rediculous. CAN the Covanent subvert humans? Well I guess all of this is not helpful just now. I still want to be in the game.


[OT digression="This thread"] Actually the Covenant can subvert humans (there was a scene in the novel, Halo: The Flood). Additionally, humans can work counter-purpose to the goals of the UNSC. (i.e., pirates ala Halo: First Strike). [/OT]
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Assertions:

  • Melissa/Operator only wants to release sensitive data to her crew
  • Melissa/Operator wants to verify her crew are live, and not recordings.
  • Melissa/Operator believes real people take/use initiative. [see my live conversation with Melissa]
  • Melissa/Operator wants her crew to do something that will provide that they are "real."
  • Melissa/Operator hears voices in her head [see hives.html]


Conjecture:

  • Melissa/Operator thinks that the voices she hears in her head, from the future personality/process are related to the truth. [see hives.html]
  • Melissa/Operator needs more memories to assist in the repair effort.


Speculation/Action:

  • Share the summery of what we know about the waves released to date (humptydumpty.html). Melissa has organized these memories as part of the repair process, however she may not understand what it means. For example, in my live conversation with her, she did not know where Hawaii was. Maybe we should tell her what we think it means.

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Mazian
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[RANT]

Here's the thing that is upsetting me more than anything else. We have people who are claiming that the "crew" are hoarding information and working cross purposes to the rest of the beekeepers. We also have people who have claimed that the "crew" are working against the express wishes of the majority of the beekeepers.

Yet, here we have a thread where people could post their questions and/or suggest actions for the crew to take this next Tuesday on our "targeted" calls, and there have been very few posts.

Trust us when we say we need all the input we can get. We're not brainiacs and we can't do this alone. So please, if there is anything you want to know that we can help find out, or any suggested tasks, please cross post those here so that we can, in one spot, find a list of things to do/ask on Tuesday if the opportunity presents itself.

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Edit: For those who didn't get why I posted this, this is a [META] bump Wink
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Hmmmm... Well the first thing that pops to mind is to get her to volunteer more information about herself and perceptions. Exactly how I'm unsure of, after all this will be the first week the directed calls go out to all chosen. So it is a kinda on your feet sort of action depending on what arises in the conversation. But with a better grasp on her thoughts, it might be easier to discern what course of actions/questioning would help us get info for a certain goal (flea removal, princess freedom, melissa wholeness.)

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I'd like to know the answers to these questions:

-What has happened to the SP?

-What is the current state of the alien artifact that was brought on board?

-Is there any communication with ONI?

-What does Melissa know about Dana?

Sorry about creating some confusion between beekeepers and crew in some of the other forums...I just don't want Melissa to have more information than we do. You guys are doing a good job. Good luck tomorrow.
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There is some SPEC among the crew that the "crew" may not receive "live" calls this Tuesday. Something that came up while we were talking to each other (and Shad0 posted it, TuxKamen provides the link below) was that shad0 asked whether the number he provided to Melissa had to be a number where a live person would answer, or whether it could go where Melissa could leave a message.

To which, Melissa responded: It doesn't matter.

granted, without a recording or a transcript, we're going off of memory and memory is inherently flawed. Embarassed
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Mazian wrote:
There is some SPEC among the crew that the "crew" may not receive "live" calls this Tuesday. Something that came up while we were talking to each other (and I'm not sure that it was posted anywhere, since I cannot, for the love of doG, find a post on unfiction by shad0 with a recount of his conversation with Melissa) was that shad0 asked whether the number he provided to Melissa had to be a number where a live person would answer, or whether it could go where Melissa could leave a message.

To which, Melissa responded: It doesn't matter.

granted, without a recording or a transcript, we're going off of memory and memory is inherently flawed. :oops:


Search by the username instead of certain terms?

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=76748&highlight=#76748
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Thanks for finding the link Embarassed
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What caused the Apocalypso to crash?
Melissa had feared her system could be infected with some sort of viral program. Has she determined the truth?
Melissa is damaged, in an unfamiliair computer network, and possibly in danger of capture or compromise. Has she invoked the Cole Protocol?


It might be possible to ask direct questions more "safely" if they are couched in terms of "seeking the truth"--which is, after all, our objective.

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Mazian
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Moonroach wrote:
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Melissa is damaged, in an unfamiliair computer network, and possibly in danger of capture or compromise. Has she invoked the Cole Protocol?
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Good questions all, but this one especially appeals to me. However, I don't think the Cole Protocol has been mentioned in-game (i.e., within the context of ILB) therefore it's not a question that we can safely ask. Crying or Very sad

oh how I would love to ask this question.
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My suggestion?

Ask her where they are. Tell you you are spending most of your time attempting to fix the hardware difficulties, and have yet to determine with any accuracy the current location.

See what she says...does she know she's on Earth?

And perhaps more importantly, does she even know what Earth is? (I'm looking at you Hawai'i.)

I would suggest not talking about Dana, but I've come to the point that Melissa does what Melissa pleases, and we can't really predict or control her. Too much fear and ego inside her. If she feels like remembering Dana, she'll do it not matter what we do. If she feels like forgetting, she'll forget no matter what we do.

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Melissa's hives.html message states, under Conjecture, "The process/personality must not interfere with the consummation of the truth."

Question: What action constitutes "consummation of the truth"?

-- Steve has a few ideas, but most of them should remain in the gutter from whence they spawned. Smile And others frighten the used-bananas out of him.
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omg i'm a total brainiac!!

I mean, yes, I love these posts. I am so nervous about Tuesday, I can't even tell you.

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Moonroach wrote:
What caused the Apocalypso to crash?


To wander slightly off topic into [SPEC] for a while, I'm not convinced that the Apocalypso did crash. Or if it did, it was certainly not severe enough to kill the crew, as Captain Greene survived to be hit by an ONI bus later on. We're told that the Apocalypso blasted into low orbit, but not that it crashed (unless I've forgotten something). Obviously something happened aboard the Apocalypso that necessitated the assassination of Captain Greene (at least, in the eyes of Standish). Something involving the artifact, the appearance in low orbit, and the crash of the CNC network (this brings up something else, which probably belongs in a new thread - if we've been moving in parallel with the story from the future, why did we have Melissa present in our timeline for the month or so leading up to the August 24 crash of the CNC network? Wasn't that when the Apocalypso appeared, and when we've been presuming Melissa was sent back in time?).

The crash Melissa refers to is the crash of her own neural network rather than the crash of a real, physical ship.

That said, the question is still useful as it will give insight into Melissa's perception of what went on. Although, seeing as she 'went completely metempsychotic' she probably doesn't remember much of it.
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key_lime wrote:
Herzoc: The ship, the one that crashed out of the slipstream inside lunar orbit...
Avi: The Apocalypso.

I can't speak for Moonroach, but maybe that is the crash he is talking about.

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