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[META] Sides? WHo should we trust?
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Oea
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[META] Sides? WHo should we trust?

I think 'The Crew' should now be considered a semi-hostile entity not working to our goals, but melissa's (Who in turn is compromised bu the Pious Flea)

From the beginning of the whole 'crew' thing, their conflicting stories of what happened mixed with just the bizzareness of some of their posts have led me to believe we should consider them at least not conductive to our interests.

You know when a big group is keeping a secret, but doesn't collaborate on it (at first) and the stories sound really jumbled? That's the feeling I got on the 1st day of the live calls... now that Weephun has had the Sleeping Princess (Our only ally) locked and under control of the PF influenced Melissa, we should do anything to free her.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 3:25 pm
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A few points:

1) You seem to be forgetting that we're all in on this game together. Everyone is working hard to solve each puzzle as it comes along.

2) If you suddenly start alienating those people who have been getting the most axons, how long do you think that they'll keep going out for them? How would you feel if you were being accused of impeding the game? Would you be inclined to offer as much support as you have been doing (if in fact you have been answering payphones or solving puzzles)?

3) Xnbomb, Krystyn and a few of the other 'crew' have played ARGs before. I think we should trust their judgement before we start accusing them of any wrongdoings.

4) We don't know for sure that the Flea has influenced Melissa in any way other than to stop her deleting it. It is pure [spec] to say otherwise.

I would also like to say that the 'crew' has my full support in using their own judgement to continue/further the game. Hopefully we will get more 'crew' when the new set of axons go hot on Tuesday, until then, I have to say thanks to all who have put in the time, effort and cash into enhottenating the axons and revealing more of the story to us who aren't as able. Keep up the good work guys (& gals Razz)
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Again: weephun also tried to rat out the Pious Flea, but didja happen to notice that Melissa jumped on the issue of the Sleeping Princess/rogue process? She specifically directed conversation in that direction.

And FYI, when she asked me about the rogue process, I told a white lie, and said I wasn't sure that I knew anything about it. Because I really don't. I don't know what the Sleeping Princess really is, or what she wants. I am not sure that Melissa is Melissa for goodness' sake!

[META]The PMs definitely tried to weasel information about the SP out of me during my call. They obviously did it to weephun, too. I was asked about revenge, and had to listen to Miss M. get pretty ominous about those who have Done Her Wrong. I can pretty safely conclude that this story development was most likely planned to happen at this point in time - even if it wasn't planned as the only course of action, it sure was a possible one. Remember, they still hold the reins, no matter what we do.[/META]

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krystyn wrote:
[META]The PMs definitely tried to weasel information about the SP out of me during my call. They obviously did it to weephun, too. I was asked about revenge, and had to listen to Miss M. get pretty ominous about those who have Done Her Wrong. I can pretty safely conclude that this story development was most likely planned to happen at this point in time - even if it wasn't planned as the only course of action, it sure was a possible one. Remember, they still hold the reins, no matter what we do.[/META]
Right, SP's capture, while an interesting twist to the in-game plot, really hasn't changed the direction of the game much. The PM's no doubt have some leeway with the story. They've most likely got the major plot points and methods of interaction worked out already, and a bit of wiggle room where the details are concerned.

After all, it's Friday, we've received new axons on recipe3.html, and a preview of the axons for Tuesday. This is the same end result that would have happened if SP had still been loose.

I'm interested in seeing what form the puzzles take on Tuesday, since SP has been the source of those up until now.
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Side? I am on nobody's side, because nobody is on my side, little orc.

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sorry, its friday, nearly 5... i'm gettin antsy!
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Karmic wrote:
krystyn wrote:
[META]The PMs definitely tried to weasel information about the SP out of me during my call. They obviously did it to weephun, too. I was asked about revenge, and had to listen to Miss M. get pretty ominous about those who have Done Her Wrong. I can pretty safely conclude that this story development was most likely planned to happen at this point in time - even if it wasn't planned as the only course of action, it sure was a possible one. Remember, they still hold the reins, no matter what we do.[/META]

Right, SP's capture, while an interesting twist to the in-game plot, really hasn't changed the direction of the game much. The PM's no doubt have some leeway with the story. They've most likely got the major plot points and methods of interaction worked out already, and a bit of wiggle room where the details are concerned.

After all, it's Friday, we've received new axons on recipe3.html, and a preview of the axons for Tuesday. This is the same end result that would have happened if SP had still been loose.

I'm interested in seeing what form the puzzles take on Tuesday, since SP has been the source of those up until now.

Me, I blame Dorkmaster. The Sleeping Princess couldn't possibly have ignored several dozen e-mails offering to become her own private impromptu army. Obviously the PMs had to get rid of the Princess before she became too powerful. Mr. Green
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Karmic wrote:
After all, it's Friday, we've received new axons on recipe3.html, and a preview of the axons for Tuesday. This is the same end result that would have happened if SP had still been loose.

I'm interested in seeing what form the puzzles take on Tuesday, since SP has been the source of those up until now.


The one difference is that we did not get a story from the SP. These have been very illuminating. Also, the humptydumpty page didn't update. Not that it has done so consistently. I am glad to see that all the "hidden" wavs and other pages SP gave us are still there. However, I can find only one killer.jpg picture on the site and it appears to be uncorrupted. The absence of an SP story makes me apprehensive about getting puzzles on Tues. I hope we do as it would show that she is not completely trapped. I still bet on SP as a bad guy in the end, but want to get her out anyway because she is so interesting!
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Man, this is going to turn into DAS EXPERIMENT.
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anything that is out there for us - be it .wavs, puzzles, humptydumpty updates, etc. - a way will be provided for us to obtain it. it's a game and we're here to unlock things and move the story forward. we just have to look and work and do.

weephun getting the Princess captured is cool. who would have guessed one of our players could have gotten an ingame character captured and possibly killed?

now if we could only do something about Standish...

and it's wrong to assume the SP was an ally. she gave us information, but she also played with us in the same manner she played with the Flea. she never made us any promises. she gave us info and puzzles, but she never gave us any assurances our goals were alligned. who knows, she may escape yet! and unleash a vengence frightening to behold!

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mann alive wrote:
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who knows, she may escape yet! and unleash a vengence frightening to behold!
Shocked *weephun checks to make sure there is a hole nearby for crawling into*
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Yeah ... what would we do without Shad0? Who will .. umm ... trout all the newbies and berate their Halo-loving ways?
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I agree with Oea. With the capture of the SP we have lost a channel of information. Interaction with the SP was more interesting than with the Operator so far.

Now that a select few are "in-game" it feels as if the rest of us are just spectators. Especially given the fact that some are willing to hide info from the rest of the community.

I would say, given the events of today, that the crew is to be suspect by the rest that are trying to figure out whose side we should be on.

It is bad form for a player in an ARG to hide facts from the rest of the community.

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mann alive wrote:
and unleash a vengeance frightening to behold!


Don't you mean "frightening to !behold"?

Very Happy

Yeah, I think, in game anyway, I've rather cast my lot with the SP. but I don't blame anybody for their actions any way I look at it.

It's very possible that the SP could turn out to be the bad guy. (As the song goes, "Nice, is different then good".) Or it could turn out that there are no "bad guys" really... (Except for perhaps the people who keep clogging up the forums with lame posts about who said what first quite frankly. Rolling Eyes )

Also, I didn't find the "crew's" stories very conflicting at all... And if I did notice an inconsistency, I chalked it up to Melissa/PMs trying to drive a wedge in the community. Very Happy
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Interesting idea, the PMs trying to divide the community. Yeah, I'm starting to feel a bit like a spectator, but I guess that's what the PMs want us to feel like. They want us to alienate them, thinking that they might be spys, or the like. Perhaps... Perhaps the Flea is really the only "good guy", and Melissa's 'memories' are really coming from the Flea, and the Flea is providing the link to the future. Trying to convert Melissa to the human side, or the like. The code it writes in could be seen as a program going undercover, acting weaker than it really is. Could we see the Flea transform into a full AI later on, capable of communication with us? Possibly, and if so, it could be interesting.

But, on topic, this could be seen either way. If they ARE trying to divide the community... Here's a quick question I should look into, or two of them: A) Did the people who were 'spiked' post where and when they would be going? and B) Are most of the people major people in the community, IE - got us alot of our info first, and quickest? If so, I have a slight bit of spec about that... But I'll have to answer those two first, to get the spec to have some proof to back it up.

Oh, and apologies to the spiked people, due to the fact that I don't really know exactly who was spiked, excepts for xnbomb, krysten, and weephun. I should also look into that. Rambling now. Gotta learn to shut up.
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Necroscope wrote:
It is bad form for a player in an ARG to hide facts from the rest of the community.


Or, on the other hand, fun. Maybe it's time to rewrite the rules.


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