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[PUZZLE] Are you the seventh son?
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darkphan
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Text in image on the latin page:

Quote:
ULTIMUS ILIONEUS NON PROFECTURA
PRECANDO
BRACCHIA SUSTULERAT 'DI' QUE 'O
COMMUNITER OMNES,'
DIXERAT IGNARUS NON OMNES ESSE
ROGANDOS
'PARCITE!' MOTUS ERAT, CUM IAM
REVOCABILE TELUM
NON FUIT, ARCITENENS; MINIMO
TAMEN OCCIDIT ILLE 265
VULNERE, NON ALTE PERCUSSO CORDE
SAGITTA


Which is a passage from Metamorphoses by Ovid

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ElGameR
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I used an online translator to translate that, and I got the following:

Quote:
Avenging ilioneus not advance prayer bracchia sustulerat 'di' and 'o to share omnes,' he had spoken unacquainted with not omnes to be rogandos 'parcite! ' motion was , when now revocabile javelin not fuit arcitenens ; in the least degree nothwithstanding to fall he 265 to wound , not deeply to strike hard corde to fatten


I'll try a different translator in a minute.
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ElGameR
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Pointless post... I'll make a new one once I actually come to a conclusion
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Jhrayvin
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This is the same passage (from Ovid's Metamorphoses) that was on the bottom of the Seventh Sons stationery from the notes that Ron posted last week. The sculpture in the background is the background image from that same stationery.

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ElGameR
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The quote on the seventh sons is lines 261-265 in Ovid's Metamorphoses.

Eolirin found the following translation:

Quote:
The last son, Ilioneus, stretched out his arms in vain entreaty. ‘O you company of all the gods, spare me!’ he cried, unaware that he need not ask them all. The archer god Apollo was moved, though already the dart could not be recalled: yet only a slight wound killed the boy, the arrow not striking deeply in his heart.


But, the passage on theseventhsons ends mid-sentence after

Quote:
The last son, Ilioneus, stretched out his arms in vain entreaty. ‘O you company of all the gods, spare me!’ he cried, unaware that he need not ask them all.

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darkphan
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Here is another translation of that text (including the first part of the sentence):

Quote:
The life-blood forc'd it out, and darting upward sprung, Ilioneus, the last, with terror stands, Lifting in pray'r his unavailing hands;
And, ignorant from whom his griefs arise, Spare me, o all ye heav'nly Pow'rs, he cries: Phoebus was touch'd too late, the sounding bow Had sent the shaft, and struck the fatal blow; Which yet but gently gor'd his tender side, So by a slight and easy wound he dy'd.


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Lith
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Dont know if this helps, but I found the statue in the background, and some info on it.
http://www.beazley.ox.ac.uk/CGPrograms/Cast/ASP/Cast.asp?CastNo=C121.html
actually appears to be the excat same image. Its actually a plaster casing of the orignal, a marbel statue from a 4th century BC statue.

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Kender
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Updated path:

Code:

Page:                     Action:
www.theseventhsons.com/   press enter :)
index.html                click logo
entry.html                fill in 'seeker'
entry.html                click image
antechamber.html          fill in 'knowledge'
antechamber.html          note every 7th letter
twistedpath.html          twists in path -> binary
amoun.html                take first letters of words
vitriol.html              click image
portal.html               fill in 'seeker'
portal.html               click image
hall.html                 fill in 'initiate'
hall.html                 click hidden dot at bottom of text
turns.html                fill in 'myself'
turns.html                count ROTs & call nr
ovid.html                 Click image
sph.html                  ???

I've created a mirror of theseventhsons here: http://kender.xs4all.nl/7

*edit: added mirror

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tommymcgrarh
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http://www.theseventhsons.com/sph.html


the easy link from latin.html

Im loading the pic, before its inaccesable again.

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dishboy
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PatamonKid wrote:
Ok, this was a fluke, but still kicks ass ^_^

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Yeah, so, INITIATION is ROTed one letter at a time into that gibberish QUPAQBBQST. Noticed someone said the numbers it was ROTed by as I joined the channel ([22:09] <jizzle> 8,7,7,7,8,1,8,8,4,6), looked at it a couple hours later as owler and dmax were talking about the ROT numbers, and noticed that it was 10 digits. Something clicked, and got (877)781-8846. I haven't called yet, but apparently it's a couple minutes of a guy talking in latin, then you can leave a message.


I'll write something better when I calm down ^_^


Ahhh, I can't even believe this! I tried this method several days ago, but I used a different ordering - rather than taking the ROTs in the actual order of the word, I rearranged them based on which was ROTed first - which gave me an (888) number that I tried, to no avail. I can't believe I was so close to the right track!
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Lith
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Its a very strange image, its clearly the solar system
going from the top around clockwise, the planets are:
Mercury
Venus
Earth (1,2)
Mars
Mars (4,6)
Jupiter (1,2)
Saturn
Uranus (1,4)
Neptune
Pluto (2)
Neptune (4)
Pluto (3) *in the center*

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eMouse
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It's possible to hide information in the blue channel of an image because the human eye is not as sensitive to blue as it is to other colors.

I don't know if this is important, but there's a silouette of a planet in the image. In the bottom left corner, it looks like there's a Jupiter-sized planet that's been taken out of the image.

Don't know if this is just a mistake from the original editting, or a clue.

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Lith
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Wow, good eye. You can see the blue if you look hard enough in the orignal image. You're right, its excatly the size of jupiter in the image. The Star of David in the center has me thrown for a loop however.

Something else that may or may not matter, in the image, the star of david being made of 2 triangles, connects every planet with a 2 on it, as well as a 4, with diffrent triangles.

Earth to Jupiter to Pluto for 2
Neptune to Mars to Uranus for 4

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tommymcgrarh
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Ran it through high pass, and only blue, you can clearly see it now, and some stars? this must just be a editing mistake, or a clue?

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Kender
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Based on the image with the names I've made these seven groups:

Mercury, Venus, Earth: 1,2
Mars, Mars: 4,6
Saturn, Jupiter: 1,2
(hidden jupiter?), Neptune, Uranus: 1,4
Moon: 2
Neptune: 4
Moon: 3

Not making sense yet, just ordering the info we've got..

*edit: changed pluto to moon


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