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[fugitivesoldier]

[SPEC] On Durga-Melissa Relation from bungie.net

[farva]

I don't think that was deciphering the Operators speech more than it was just restating what she said. It's pretty clear to begin with. Anyway, I'm not convinced the voices Melissa is supressing from Durga are the SP and the Flea. I think Melissa is referring to the recipe3 .wavs. After all, hasn't the SP called that Melissa's hidden stash or something?

The idea that Melissa, SP, and Flea are all splinters of one fractured psyche (if that's what he's trying to get at) is interesting, though. I know there's been speculation that the SP is some form of Melissa but has anyone brought that up about the Flea?

[SuperJerms]

wait, don't miss that...his spec, rephrased:

[SPEC] The consummation of the truth would be Durga finding SP. If this happens, disaster will ensue.

This is a new thought...that SP is key to something, and Melissa is locking her up to keep her safe from Durga.

[devolver]

[fugitivesoldier]

Yeah, i just thought this SPEC sounded a little new. That Melissa doesn't HATE SP, she just wants to hide her from Durga.

[farva]

[daboking]

Somehow I still do not think Melissa has SP's best interest at heart. Her tone in referring to SP is not one of protective, but of ire. Her referral of SP as a rogue process seems to me rather cold and insensitive if this is someone so valuable to her cause. On the other hand, with the attitude of revenge Melissa carries, if she had no reason to protect SP, she would simply have eliminated her. Will be interesting to see how this plays out

[fugitivesoldier]

That's some good Point/Counterpoint.

Guess we'll find out.

[anaerin]

Okay, my [SPEC] (Wild as it may be).

I think Melissa/Durga/SP are all aspects of the same AI. There is (In essence) some "Shared Memory Space" coming through in each. Melissa is seeing Durga as a seperate entity, as the Flea has changed her core programming. This explains where Durga's recordings are coming from (For Durga, they're happening "Now", and Melissa is reading them out of the shared memory space).

Part of the reason for this, I think, is that when Melissa crashed out of SlipStream with the "Artifact", it created a "Time warp" (You may dance if you wish) that has deposited Melissa, the SP and The Flea in the ILB server (A random machine) at this end of the "Hole", and leaves Durga (And perhaps another AI that we're not being told about) on Jersey's machine (Again, a random machine on Earth) at the other end.

So the "Shared Memory Space" is across this SlipStream TimeWarp. Like a cable running through a hole in the ground to the other side of the globe, going through, not around. A "Fold in the Space-Time Continuum", anyone?

Perhaps the physical locations of the two machines is close/identical (Which would help this thoery some). We won't get to know that 'til Durga and Melissa give us GPS co-ords, or something else happens that we can use to ID the place(s).

I'm thinking that part of the task we have, as beekeepers, is to keep Dana safe (As she's an innocent bystander), and to re-unite and re-integrate these AI's, taking these three paranoid and reflected "Self"'s, and making one, whole, "Operator" entity out of them.

Or I could be smoking cheap dope.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Flames?

[Triese]

[SPEC] One thing that gets me is the fact that SP is considered a rogue process, but Melissa won't kill it. A rogue process, when left alone, can run wild and eat up resources and thus crash the system, however the normal routine would be to kill it, not keep it around so that you could keep it in check. This makes me think that Melissa feels that SP is the key to something, i.e. she is able to trigger some kind of event. Then it makes me wonder why she would do her best to hide this from Durga.

What if Melissa/PF know SP can trigger some kind of event that they need to happen, however, Durga could stop SP from triggering that event. We have already seen that Durga will stop things in order to benefit humanity (stoping Jersey from getting his father reassigned.) And if this is so, how can we use this to our benefit?

Another thing that bugs me is, why all of a sudden has the PF decided to befriend SP. My gut tells me something is not right with this. Its like he is trying to coerce the SP into trap he has setup or one he has gotten Melissa to setup. At this point, I still don't think we can trust him.

[Nova]

[Triese]

Nova, you have a point, and now that I think about it I am starting to agree with you. However, one thing keeps going through my mind; if I was going to hustle somebody, I would play dumb as long as possible to lure my target in as much as I could before I closed the noose around him.

[anaerin]

Just out of interest, did I hear someone say that as part of the Cole protocol, the system has to be examined 3 ways?

And we have Durga, Melissa and the Princess, whom all seem to be part of the same AI construct.

And the Flea, who doesn't appear to match any of them...

Is it possible that Melissa ("The Operator") was in the midst of running through the Cole protocol when the "Event" happened and fired her various parts across the timestream?

[Arana]

[anaerin]