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[SOLVED] The Unraveling Amazing Grace Music
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darkphan
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 		The MP3 has changed on the webpage... it is now AmazingGrace2.mp3

its the same song, but new comments.

Title: xxxx

Artist: xxxx

Album: xxxx

Comment: xxxx

Composer: xxxx

Edited per request, as info is irrelevant to gameplay - Gupfee

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 9:22 pm
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The Watcher
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 		It looks like hex, but I can't decode it.

What's with the 0000 before each one?

Is it a Sine puzzle? Sine functions encoded in it or something?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 9:32 pm
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KevDude
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 		looks like hex addresses. Maybe we take the addresses, then take the bytes at that address and put them together.

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darkphan
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 		now its back to the original file...

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grumpyboy
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KevDude wrote:
looks like hex addresses. Maybe we take the addresses, then take the bytes at that address and put them together.


I've tried that already (on the mp3 and on the gif) but it yielded nothing... Confused

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 9:44 pm
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darkphan
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 		BTW, the notes in the GIF are from the song Amazing Grace

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grumpyboy
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darkphan wrote:
now its back to the original file...


darkphan asked me to post this up for him...

attachment deleted per request - not relevant to gameplay -- Gupfee

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 9:51 pm
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darkphan
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 		So, I guess we are back to waiting for someone to transcribe the melody.mp3 file so we can solve this one...

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 10:13 pm
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LGarrett
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eMouse wrote:
Furthermore... the music in the background has chords marked on it.

The three chords mentioned are G, G7, and C. A chord is a set of notes that compliment each other. G chord includes G, B, and D. The C chord includes C, E, and G. G7 is unusual because it bridges two other chords and includes G, B, D, and F. One way you could lay this all out....

D, G-B-D, B, B-D-F, A, G-C-E, E, D-G-B, D


G7 is not really that unusual, as those are the basic guitar accompaniment chords for "Amazing Grace."

And the notes in question on the graphic in the background are the basic melody for the beginning of "Amazing Grace" -- D G B B A G E D (which ties in with what eMouse posted above) -- and correspond with the first line (in bold) of each verse in the following lyrics:

Amazing grace! How sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me!
I once was lost, but now am found;
Was blind, but now I see.

'Twas grace that taught my heart to fear,
And grace my fears relieved;
How precious did that grace appear
The hour I first believed.

Through many dangers, toils and snares,
I have already come;
'Tis grace hath brought me safe thus far,
And grace will lead me home.

The Lord has promised good to me,
His Word my hope secures;
He will my Shield and Portion be,
As long as life endures.

Yea, when this flesh and heart shall fail,
And mortal life shall cease,
I shall possess, within the veil,
A life of joy and peace.

The earth shall soon dissolve like snow,
The sun forbear to shine;
But God, Who called me here below,
Shall be forever mine.

When we've been there ten thousand years,
Bright shining as the sun,
We've no less days to sing God's praise
Than when we'd first begun.

Verse 6 is not usually included in most hymnals, and verse 7 was not part of John Newton's original composition.

(I knew playing guitar and growing up in the church would come in handy at some point!)

As far as the melody file itself, it sounds more like some sort of piano warmup for beginners than an actual piece of music.
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 		Hint from Ed
Update at UM tonight:

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10/4/04 Update: Has anyone been playing with the mp3 on this Unraveling page? It's driving me crazy! I don't even know if the actual notes mean anything. It seems like there are chords that are in pairs, varying between one and three notes. I can't trust my tin ear to tell how many notes are played at one time, but I get the feeling that the number of notes in each pairing is important somehow. Just a thought; maybe someone with a better ear can take it and run with it.

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 		OK, there is a high probability that there are mistakes in this so someone else might want to check it, but here's the order of the 3note chords and single notes...

31313113
31133331
33113311
13313111
31311131
13311113
33111311
13313131
13131333
11131113
13131113
11313311
11313131
31313111
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 		mabye it's morse code? 3 = dots, 1 = dashes, or vice versa?

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 		Or binary? When plugging it into a translator I get VA-and then a bunch of garbage. But, like I said there may be some mistakes in there. I wish I had the time today to work on it more.
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Varin wrote:
OK, there is a high probability that there are mistakes in this so someone else might want to check it, but here's the order of the 3note chords and single notes...

31313113
31133331
33113311
13313111
31311131
13311113
33111311
13313131
13131333
11131113
13131113
11313311
11313131
31313111


Varin, thanks for doing that, I kept getting lost after about 40 secs. Using your numbers as a template, I think I found a couple that may be off; Ninth row-third note and eleventh row-first note, I think they may be chords. Please could someone double check? Thanks.


Btw, is Ed saying we are looking for just chords and singles or is he asking how many notes are in the chords, like 2 or 3? Some chords sound like they may have only 2 notes and the staff.jpg we got showed both, 2 note and 3 note chords.
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grumpyboy
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Spoiler (Rollover to View):
After seeing demetophobia.html, dashcat mentioned that the notes on that page above the O and P resembled braille. The notes above the O does form the braille for O but the notes above the P is braille for R (PM error again?)

Anyways melody.mp3 is braille (so huge kudos to dash for the braille idea which was spot on!). The way braille is formatted, you don't absolutely have to know the exact notes to solve (although it would've been much easier if I did have the exact notes).

Here's how I went about it. (warning: I used a weird notation where 0=chord of 2 or 3 notes and 1=single note) Counting notes and pairing gave the following (some notes/chords are obviously meant to be by themselves as indicated by pauses in the mp3)

01 01 01 10 01 1 00 0 01 00 11 00 11 1 00 10 11 1 01 01 11 0 11 00 11 11 00 01 11 01
11 00 10 10 11 00 01 00 01 11 01 11 00 01 00 11 01 1 01 00 11 11 01 0 1 01 01 01 01 11

(this part is easier to understand if you have a braille chart in front of you)
Braille comes in a grid of 3x2, the first chord/note in a pair indicates number of dots in the first column of the 3x2 grid, the 2nd in the pair indicate number of dots in the 2nd column. The relative pitch between the 1st and 2nd notes/chords tell where the dots are relative to each other in a pair (i.e. higher/same/lower)

For example:
- single note not paired up with any other note/chord can only be "A"
- single note followed by a single note where the 2nd one is a higher pitch would be an "E"
- single note followed by a single note where the 2nd one is a lower pitch would be an "I"
- single note followed by a single note where the 2nd one is the same pitch would be an "C"

The other letters are not so simple but definitely possible. After lots of back & forth between a braille chart and the mp3, finally got:
Code:
01 01 01 10 01 1 00 0 01 00 11 00 11 1 00 10 11 1 01 01 11 0 11 00 11 11 00 01 11 01
 F  O  R  W  H A  T B  U  T  E  Y  E A  N  D  E A  R  S  I L  E  N  C  E  T  H  E M

11 00 10 10 11 00 01 00 01 11 01 11 00 01 00 11 01 1 01 00 11 11 01 0 1 01 01 01 01 11
 I  N  D  W  I  T  H  T  H  E  M  I  N  U  T  E  P A  R  T  I  C  U L A  R  S  O  F  ?


It's from "The Double Vision Of Michael Robartes" by William Butler Yeats

The word that finishes the line is "mankind". So next page: http://www.theunraveling.com/mankind.html

NOTE: I'm very bad with music and can't tell one note from another so I had to do a lot of research for this solve (with help from dashcat and enaxor). For those who were saying that they're not good with music, etc., etc. See what you can do if you put some effort into it? That's my opinion, take it whichever way you want (hopefully some will take it as encouragement.)


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