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 		[spec] Flu OP J^2
It may be wrong to post this with out more info. But i have been thinking about why when the humpty dumpty files were posted the Police station burning down was added to the end of Jersay Wav. act when Jan's dad has already addmitted that he "took care of it." Then as i was listening to the flu wav. Mccascle(Spchk?) says that the operator gave him some advise.

So was Mccascle on the Apocolispo or was she the Spartians AI?
Plus he says his crew members have a "flu" that gets them thrown under a bus ... just like captin greene Shocked

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 		mckaskill is a crewmember of the apocalypso. we first heard from him back in phase three, in a memory from melissa. now we've heard from him commenting on the fate of other crewmembers on the apocalypso. sounds like we can piece together a bit of a timeline now:

1) the apocalypso picks up a strange artifact out in the middle of nowhere
2) it covered up for reasons currently unknown
3) the apocalypso abruptly jumps to lunar orbit for no discernable reason
4) crewmembers end up on earth, and are to some extent killed off. probably to further cover-up what happened. this coverup ends up at least killing captain green
5) something Weird occurs, resulting in melissa getting shipwrecked several hundred years in the past.

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 		Could it be that the person McKaskill was sending the secret packets to was Aiden? I mean, we still don't have a strong link between Team Jersey and the Kamal story. This SPEC is tenuous, for sure, but no more outlandish than Durga being Kamal's sister because she likes listening to him.
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inpheaux wrote:
sounds like we can piece together a bit of a timeline now:

1) the apocalypso picks up a strange artifact out in the middle of nowhere
2) it covered up for reasons currently unknown
3) the apocalypso abruptly jumps to lunar orbit for no discernable reason
4) crewmembers end up on earth, and are to some extent killed off. probably to further cover-up what happened. this coverup ends up at least killing captain green
5) something Weird occurs, resulting in melissa getting shipwrecked several hundred years in the past.


I disagree... it seems to me (5) should go (simultaneously) with (3). I think it is pretty much accepted that the WAVs we are hearing are NOT memories but are current transmissions being intercepted through time. Therefore, Melissa got shipwrecked first and then started finding out about these coverups. It also seems most obvious that whatever caused the Apocolypso to crash out of slipspace caused Melissa to fall back in time. All [SPEC] of course, but seems most likely at this point.

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MeKiwi wrote:
I disagree... it seems to me (5) should go (simultaneously) with (3). I think it is pretty much accepted that the WAVs we are hearing are NOT memories but are current transmissions being intercepted through time. Therefore, Melissa got shipwrecked first and then started finding out about these coverups. It also seems most obvious that whatever caused the Apocolypso to crash out of slipspace caused Melissa to fall back in time. All [SPEC] of course, but seems most likely at this point.

while it does make sense for there to only be one unified Weird Event, i think there are too many holes. it'd mean that when the apocalypso blinked back to earth, it blinked melissa back to earth and back to 2004. i wasn't trying to imply that the waves are memories, just trying to explain how people could get off the ship before it ended up here/now.

but i guess that's because i was assuming the ship had to come back. melissa [and our other refugees, SP and the flea] would just have to be in some kind of container that would survive a fall from orbit. . . like the artifact.

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 		The thing with this whole thing is that we KNOW that Melissa was the AI aboard the Apocalypso. But if she is recieving transmissions from around the time the Apocalypso crashed, that doesn't mean that the crash wasn't what caused her to be shot back in time - she could simply be viewing the events of the future that led up to her time warp.

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Motoss wrote:
The thing with this whole thing is that we KNOW that Melissa was the AI aboard the Apocalypso. But if she is recieving transmissions from around the time the Apocalypso crashed, that doesn't mean that the crash wasn't what caused her to be shot back in time - she could simply be viewing the events of the future that led up to her time warp.

could be, but if the waves we're hearing now are from before the timewarp, that would mean two weird events. the first one that made the apocalypso perform an unexpected and abrupt slipstream jump to earth, which led to a massive coverup and the assassination of several crewmembers, and then a second one that resulted in melissa being shot back several hundred years.

it just makes more sense for it to be unified. if the Weird Event cause all matter aboard the apocalypso to jump to earth, and then caused just the artifact and melissa to jump back a couple hundred years, that would - in one fell swoop - set everything up that needs to be set up. in the time between the event and the early recipe3 transmissions, the whole event would have been covered up, key crewmembers would have been assassinated, but rumor and speculation would be circulating. thats where the discussions from the recipe3 axons come in, with the old man talking about the obvious coverup, the artifact found, and green's demise under a bus.

i think this theory works out rather well now . .

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 		Troutage?
[SPEC]What do we know about the class and/or purpose of the Apocalypso?

We know that the ship has a Colonel (xmbomb). Colonels have approx. 2000 marines under their command, so is it possible that the Apocalypso was a troop transport, or is it more likely that the Colonel was on board with an honor guard/ retinue?[/SPEC]

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 		We already know the Apocalypso was a spy ship and was the ship Melissa was on. It wasn't a transport ship. When it came back to Earth it has been on a mission in Convenant space, where by the way it found the object.
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farva wrote:
Could it be that the person McKaskill was sending the secret packets to was Aiden?


I thought he was sending them to an "Old man." Isn't that Herzog's alter-ego?

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Shadowkiller wrote:
We already know the Apocalypso was a spy ship and was the ship Melissa was on. It wasn't a transport ship. When it came back to Earth it has been on a mission in Convenant space, where by the way it found the object.


Yeah, seriously, Melissa showed us the specs: 40 crew/passengers

I'm assuming she's gonna hire some more until she reaches her 40 quota.
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 		Re: Troutage?
Freeman wrote:
[SPEC]What do we know about the class and/or purpose of the Apocalypso?

We know that the ship has a Colonel (xmbomb). Colonels have approx. 2000 marines under their command, so is it possible that the Apocalypso was a troop transport, or is it more likely that the Colonel was on board with an honor guard/ retinue?[/SPEC]



Dude, Melissa recorded that the Apocalypso has only a 40 crew/passengers capacity.
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 		Yeah, basing speculation on the Apocalypso's crew capacity based on xnbomb being a Colonel is deeply flawed spec - the rank was something invented by one of the players, rather than the PMs.
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 		Hey look, 100 posts. Very Happy
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