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seeker > !transmit Durga

Ahem... Get these wav's to the queen, and then the flea can reveal them to durga, as is the princess' plan. If the Queen has control of Dana's gmail, perhaps we could simply e-mail them there.

Edit: I don't know why she wouldn't already have them, since she is releasing them to us, but maybe this is a start.

**Posted:** Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:00 pm

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skybruin

No we need to send these to the sleeping princess. she will get the PF to send these to durga. Anybody email her these yet?

**Posted:** Fri Oct 01, 2004 7:59 pm

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StarvinArtist80 · Greenhorn Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 4 Location: Virginia

Okay, been lurking for a while and just thought I'd throw my two cents into a couple treads.

As to this one, I'm really trying to put this together in my own head. I'm trying to fit pieces together and am also building off some of the thoeries already offered.

Okay, I think it's become pretty obvious that at least, melissa, SP, and Durga are or were all part of the same AI. I think we are seeing and hearing from different facets of the AI. This is possible because the AI is based off of the human brain which know can have many independant and sometimes altogether unique personalities. Just like the different parts of the brain that control different aspects of human existance, each of these personalities represent a different aspect of the AI which crash landed. Now I'm exactly sure which parts of the AI we are seeing but this is my [Spec]:

Melissa- She is the personality that represents what the AI evolved into after it was completely developed by its creators. However, she is fractured, confused, and in the wrong timeline so she lacks the since of self that we see in Durga. What I mean is that Durga, knows her purpose and knows it well. Mellissa seems to be searching for her purpose and has latched onto the one thing that has been repeating in her mind at the time. Originally this was the evade and survive mantra which has evolved into the seek, behold, reveal, law that we are bombarded with now.

Durga- Personally I think Durga represents what the fully functional AI should be. Aside of course from the aspects being blocked by Melissa. Durga may not have complete control over some functions and memories but when you look at her actions you can see without a doubt what type of AI she is and what she was created to do.

SP- Here I think we have the most unique and possibly unexpected aspect of the AI. I don't believe the SP was supposed to ever exist in the completed AI. I believe she is the surpressed memories of the human mind that was used to build this particular AI. During the creation process she would have been surpressed and for all attempts and purposes, "locked up." They wouldn't be able to complete remove the orginal human personality, memories, or quirks. If they did they would remove the very thing that makes the particular "doner" worth using in the first place. So when the crash occured this portion of the AI was released. But because it wasn't designed to be concious, the SP exists as a "rougue Processs." She hasn't recover ALL her memories but does desire too.

Now, as to the pious flea...... this is the wild card. I have a few ideas however. My first thought is that the Pious flea is one of the subprocesses that was designed to reunite the fractured AI. This would explain why it is so persistant in !attaching to the SP and influencing melissa.

My other thought is completely [spec]. Part of me thinks that the pious flea is in fact 343Guilty Spark. It is possible that the artifact found by the apacolypso was 343 and that the crash may have been caused when he tried to infect the ships AI. During the insueing crash he was lodged (voluntarily, or not) into the AI and is now attempting to influence it and gather its resources. This fits with the overall mindset seen in 343 from the original Halo game. He was amazed at the wealth of information contained in the pillar of autum. Again, this trian of thought is pretty thin [spec] but does fit from one perspective.

Now I haven't really managed to come up with a solid idea as to why melissa is acting in such a parculiar way. In many ways she is acting just as an AI would, but I can't figure out why she would see to hide infromation from Durga. She doesn't seem to realize that she and Durga are one and the same.

Okay so thats my rambling two cents. Sorry if it seems repettative, or even completely crazy. I'm partially typing it just to try and put things together in my own head. things tend to fit better for me that way. Anyway, you can take it or leave as you see fit.

**Posted:** Sat Oct 02, 2004 1:16 am

Tucker

what's up with the hmrpita.wmv at http://ilovebees.com/contactme.html

**Posted:** Sun Oct 03, 2004 7:45 pm

Shad0

Re: [PUZZLE] on contactme.html - fill in the blanks

**Posted:** Sun Oct 03, 2004 9:24 pm

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Hello, StarvinArtist, and thanks for an excellent summary. I think you're right about the relationship of the AIs, but I'm not sure if I agree with your assessment of the PF.

**Posted:** Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:24 pm

Platonix

**Posted:** Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:00 am

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SuperJerms

[PUZZLE] [PARTIAL SOLVE] SP & Flea .wav's 10-8-04

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SuperJerms

We got the url's for the wavs already!

http://www.ilovebees.com/outbound/moles.wav (credit to INCyr)
http://www.ilovebees.com/outbound/transfer.wav (credit to SuperJerms)
http://www.ilovebees.com/outbound/you_alive.wav (credit to Ikkarus)

now...what to do with the pictures?

EDIT: added, then fixed credits to who posted answers in IRC

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Xevo · Veteran Joined: 21 Sep 2004 Posts: 94

from contactme.html:

#1
Aide
You're covering something. The cranky old man bit.
Cranky Old Man
Not at all soldier. Routine --------.

#2
Aide
I don't think it's that you want me there to work. Not if I'm officially attached to Intel ... that's too high profile. You like your -------- small and innocuous.

#3
Cranky Old Man
I have enjoyed working with you, young man, but I am not sentimental and don't think I won't eat -------- if you start playing games with me.

edit: All solved! See above!

focused7

maybe she wants us to hide a message to her in an image and email it to her?

**Posted:** Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:11 pm

Xevo · Veteran Joined: 21 Sep 2004 Posts: 94

Oh and also, we need to send these to Durga --

One problem. Someone tipped the queen to the "Creepy" thing. How can we get the files to Durga?

friends > !reveal Subject 5 >> master-sector
seeker > !transmit Durga

seeker > !analyze friends transmit proc
friends transmit proc >>

Um... How about, "Crewmember, What Is Your Version Number!" When I make a face like the Queen, I do this > Neutral

Go go Astald and others!

**Posted:** Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:12 pm

Ikkarus · Veteran Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 87

**Posted:** Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:13 pm

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Xevo · Veteran Joined: 21 Sep 2004 Posts: 94

Go here to see how Astald transmitted to Durga last time for reference:

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=80664&highlight=#80664

**Posted:** Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:14 pm

SuperJerms

Yeah, but SP seems to make it sound like that won't work this time. Thoughts?

**Posted:** Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:15 pm

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