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[Anton P. Nym]

Let's not forget that JJ was tied up when he died... those two goons had shot him with web guns after he landed in the basement, binding him up with buckycable mesh. (Buckycable, I'm guessing, is a carbon fillament made from linked molecules of buckministerfullerine. This would be VERY strong, hence the goons' surprise that JJ could start tearing the mesh.)

It's not too hard to hit a non-moving target that's tied up, especially when you're only an arm's-reach away. All you need is a big enough gun or enough time and bullets... and Thin spent two (three?) rounds into JJ's head. That's gonna hurt even with a titanium-reinforced skull, and JJ was "one-point-oh" and "all too human"... and so was even more vulnerable.

He wasn't a world-striding combat-god when he died. He was just an unfortunate fish in a barrel.

-- Steve's seeing some of the Spartan Mythos creeping in here as well as the UNSC propaganda broadcasts... they're still human, folks!

[Platonix]

[Arana]

[bcriswell]

[GabrielBlade]

And the other thing to remember is this: JSquared was a Spartan 1.0. Now, we remember that they took the Spartan2.0s at age 6.. now, even if they had done it at the same time, the Spartan1.0s were all volunteers, and most (going from the example of Gilly) were already in the corps, which makes them at least 18-20ish.

Now, even if the chief was taken at the same time as the Spartan1.0s were being tested upon, that makes James easily sixty. Master Chief is somewhere around 45.. so there's another reason Thin and his goons could beat him - they're half his age.

[skyhawk0000]

from Durga's "report" on gladys~

Durga: [Through a chatter] Me. You are Gladys Wilson. Born Gladys Ashanti Swanson in Tahoga, Texas. You volunteered for a SPARTAN program in January of 2491, after a year and a half of special forces.
Gladys: How in the world --

making an assumption here~
gladys entered UNSC military at lowest legal age, 18, and worked her way up to special forces after 2-4 years. if true, or nearly true then an estimated birth year would be UNSC 2469, and estimated age in the low to mid 80s..

but..

as pointed out in fall of reach and other books, soldiers and non-essential personel stay in cryostasis during space travel, which could add up to may saved years in the end. also, depending on medical levels in the haloverse time period, it wouldnt be hard to assume that mid-80s is Not considered elderly any longer and is more like a middle age in terms of physical and mental stability.

this is all on top of side effects of the enhancement process for the SPARTAN 1s


this all relates back to J^2 because, I assume, UNSC selected/accepted only soldiers from the same age bracket

btw: the "recruits" for SPARTAN II were collected in Aug/Sep of UNSC 2517

_{please excuse my grammer and structure skills. my brain dosnt connect ideas with proper english}