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[Vegechan]

[Spec] Jan = Kamal's Sister?

[Theorizer]

you mean Kamal, and The dad, is a dad. But the real weird thing is, how does James stil know his Sister? Like all family ties were cut.

[Vegechan]

>.< Yeah sorry about that, it was Kamal, when he was on a "date" with Sophie. Sorry bout that.

[Mazian]

/me prompts EDIT

[Vegechan]

We don't know that James/Jim is truely Jan's dad. His past is shrouded in mystery and his name isn't really James/Jim as Durga pointed out. I really don't think James is Jan's real dad. Is there proof that he is truely her father?

We know he is a Spartan. Where did he get the time off and time to have a child? And why was he allowed to leave the Spartans? I don't think that makes much sense. And I really don't think Gladis is really related. She was a marine, most likely a friend with "James" when he was active. All ties where destroyed with their family, as far as I knew.

[Mazian]

[farva]

At this point, the way I interpret that dream_child transcript is that Jim James was assigned a child, perhaps he was deemed unfit for battle (injury or something) and was given the assignment of raising a future SPARTAN. I think this kind of jives with the idea that he was using a Naval instruction manual on raising children (Jan mentioned this in a .wav a week or two ago).

So, if you want to jump into WILD SPEC territory: Kamal's sister IS Jan and two flash clones were made of her. One to be returned to Kamal's family and one as the basis for Durga (thus her interest in Kamal and all the other good stuff she says in the special spiked axons today).

[stiill]

I was under the impression that Kamal's sister was turned into an AI, given all the recent talk about scanning the brains of recently dead really smart people and turning them into AIs. So, not Jan, but Durga or something.

[LorD BaZTArD]

Hey all, long time lurker. New poster, I finally decided to register after listening to bang.wav.......certainly did end with a bang. I think this just proves that Jan is James real daughter, pity about her mother being a right headcase. I also vehemently denied the claim Gillian was jan's mother, looks like I'm wrong. These wav's have been pretty cool info wise.

I'm still adamant that Jasmine is a member of a new spartan project. At first I gave that role to jan, but she's already a spartan by genetics, plus we are given a new character that fits the AI template perfectly. Ronnie.

The only thing we don't know yet...is how they all fit, I see the timeline heading towards a very specific point in the future before the covenant arrive and all the stories get tied up. The information Master Chief has would be of great interest to Mr High Ranking Officer, I'm also wondering if Master Chief turns up here at all, if he meets James Squared and what the re-union would be like, perhaps uneasy. (I beleive J Squared was the same unit but he got retired for one unexplained reason)

[Avery1415]

At this point, I think it's pretty clear that Jan is J^2 biological daughter. She's been amped up, on the sly and can't let her cover be blown. (And to gloat a bit, I theorized all of this after axon set 1. Yay me. )

What does this have to do with Kamal's sister?

DURGA is/was Kamal's sister. Why else would Kamal be "very interesting" to her?

And while we're on the subject - What kind of sick SOBs chop out a five year old girls brain to make a computer? Are we sure the Covenant are the bad guys?

[Mazian]

[Bobeo]

I am not sure if everyone remmbers this but there was one spartan that was unfit for duty and couldnt be a spartan anymore. I am not talking about the ones that were mained by the surgery. In TFoR Dr. Halsey says that to date only 3 spartans have been KIA and one is too so hurt that he/she is unfit for duty. She never says that he was maimed or disfigured. Maybe soemthing happened like his brain couldnt handle the stress and it would shut down or something.
I think that Jim is the one Spartan that was unft for duty. Meaning he would have all the time in the world to raise a kid.

EDIT: Nevermind, i didnt relize he said he was a spartan 1. Those spartans i was talking about were spartan IIs. My bad.

[LorD BaZTArD]

No... Avery1415, just no. This is my main problem with some of the spec thrown in here and irc, look I understand not all of you are, or want to be halo players and are just in it for the ARG. But please...could you use the existing fiction to create beleivable spec??

The biggest cause of my gripe is the durga = kamal's sister spec. Why would they turn a 6 year old into an AI? She's 6!!! what benefit would this bring?

We know how AI's are created, it's explained in FoR and the recent spiked axons. Candidates are selected based on their intelligence and when they die, the brain is mapped to a computer system. The candidate stays dead but the AI resulting is based on the dead person, this is not new to some people, but given the ronnie wavs, we have a perfect AI candidate. Ronnie.

So what of Kamal's sister? Well, existing fiction explains this too, and in ways possibly not expected. Until I heard J^2 admit he was a spartan 1, I was adamant he was the wounded spartan mentioned in FoR. I was horribly, horribly wrong, He's a spartan 1 we learn that his project was disbanded for the spartan 2 project and we also know the wavs are "current" the glassing of reach ties this in, so the year is 2552 just weeks before covenant hit earth and halo 2 starts. We have Kamal, his age is unknown now, but we know his sister died of genetic failure at age 6 when he was 10. Jasmines death sounds eerily familiar to someone else's case, none other than the master cheif and the rest of the spartan 2's...so could she be a spartan 2? In a word...no, Kamal isn't old enough for this to be true, so could she be a Spartan 3 or later? Possibly. Why would they capture 6 year old children again...unless the Spartan 2 project was an incredible success that it's feasible to do it again. Why could this be a possibility? J^2 points out that the process changed for the S2's and his group was disbanded, so in the eyes of the UNSC/ONI/whoever S1 was a bad move. This gives us the possibilty that S3 or higher was continued in the same way, what else gives us a similar concept?

The First Strike novel. After the covenant completely routed the military on reach, instead of glassing it, they started looking for something. So Dr Halsey and the Remaining S2's on reach got a very lucky second chance, and while she told the spartans to recover some equipment for them to use, she was doing a diagnostic on kelly's bio-scan results, and her other AI Kalmiya spots an anomaly in the data. After searching why she finds some of Colonel Ackersons work, in particular, a folder called Spartan III. In which she finds that Ackerson has done some extensive research on the S2 project right down to the children before the kidnappings, she also finds a reference to the Spartan's trainer Chief Petty Officer Mendez and a long line of text, but she doesn't bother working on it. What could this reveal? Well Ackerson and Halsey have had a LONG rivalry, ever since Halsey's project superceded his, I think that his project was S1, and the information he researched was to see if he could use it for himself.

I think Ackerson has control of the SIII project. Why? It's mentioned in Fall of Reach that Cortana did a little tampering with Ackerson because like her creator Dr Halsey, Cortana doesn't like Ackerson much so she does a little creative hacking (very much like what Durga did to Mr Shebura actually) and gets him transferred to the front lines. Cut forward to after the fall of reach and we meet Ackerson again. Still very much in a position of power, he obviously got around Cortana's mischief and kept his job, he's sitting on a reveiw panel discussing how reach fell, he seems happy to hear that Reach got glassed and with it, Dr Halsey. During this discussion an exchange takes place between an Admiral and Colonel Ackerson, keeping in mind that Colonel is a lower rank than Admiral yet this heated exchange results in the admiral getting admonished by Ackerson, and no protest from anyone else...Why? Well Ackerson must have control of a new project giving him alot of power...and given the info uncovered on Reach by Dr Halsey, information he obviously wanted destroyed in the glassing. (also, I think it's safe to assume after Halsey nicks the item the covenant are looking for and leaves the planet, the covenant finish glassing reach) I can only speculate he has Spartan 3 under his belt.

Wow, after all this where are we left with Jasmine? 27 years have passed since the graduation of the S2's, so plenty could of happened. It's plenty of time to start a new Spartan team...Jasmine's abduction seems to indicate this, we have no solid evidence of anything regarding Kamal's age, therefore we can't guess at Jasmines age. Perhaps this is deliberate.

For this step I'm jumping into the realm of [Spec] but it could be worth considering. I'm going to assume that Kamal is 21, making 11 years pass since Jasmines abduction, (I'm also assuming that since John's training took 9 years, Jasmines group also took 9 years) So this is plenty of time for the SIII's to graduate training and augmentation. Given Ackersons new found power...what if the SIII's are complete? What if they are waiting for orders to mobilize against the covenant. Maybe Halo 2 will introduce a new batch of spartans.

I conclude from this lengthy rant that we got introduced to Kamal as an indirect method to introduce the S3's, and Jasmine is their leader. (She might not be the leader either, but I think someone named Jasmine might get mentioned if the S3 spec turns out to be true to tie it in to this ARG, so non-ARG'ers meet Jasmine, but we know why )

Am I right? or Horribly wrong again? Only time can tell. Can't wait to find out an answer. So please...end the Kamal = Durga crap (and PM's? please don't prove me wrong again *nudge nudge* ) because in my opinion she is not and can not be Durga.

[Extrasonic]

[Mazian]