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EMAIL BRUCE: Dale (Email from Bruce Abbott)
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konamouse
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Heather:

Wow. This is very curious. I corresponded earlier this evening with an 'investigator' whom I had never heard from before, and she asked me
to explain the same incident. Well, since it appears you all share your
communications, perhaps you'll see my response to her soon.

The long and short of it is that I was in Philadelphia on business on
the morning of that day, when I stopped into Dale's office (which is
located just across the Delaware in Camden). I was shocked by his condition (not only was he bruised, but he looked like he had been sleeping in his clothes for 2-3 days). But he started talking about everything else in the world -- the weather, the 76ers, the progress he was making on the town web site. He seemed desperate for me to ignore the obvious -- so I bit my tongue, and did. I spontaneously pitched him on the idea of coming back to A-Fame, trying to get him to open up -
- but it was no go.

Should I have pushed, ignored all the signs he was flashing and
confronted him? Well, it obviously appears so now. But Dale had been systematically been pushing away all of us -- me, his wife, his friends in town -- those past few months. He may not have realized it, but he was positively exuding a vibe of 'leave me alone' 24-7. Diana felt the same withdrawal -- it's why she left with Meaghan, and went home to her parents for a couple of weeks before the tragic accident. It hurts me to think that Dale believes we were the ones turning away from him.

As for the continued highlighting of Empty Threats -- I'm embarrassed
to say that it was part of the current business agreement to modernize the website that ET get feature billing on our site. The minute that I can
contractually do so, any public mention of the Marzanos will disappear from my company's info. At the same time, doing anything precipitous that would attract Sal's attentions doesn't appear prudent, either. Even if the entire family is involved in criminal enterprises, I'm going to have to act like nothing is wrong -- while trying to carefully find out what I can about what they intend to do to Dale, and how it can be prevented. I neither want to share a cell with Sal Marzano, nor tempt him to dig me an unmarked grave. Hopefully you can appreciate the position I appear to be in.

The volunteer work sounds very rewarding. Hope you have a good week. I notice you didn't seem to answer the question of whether you in fact were expressing a little jealousy of Angie in your last letter. Perhaps next time.

Bruce



Quoting hxxxxxxxx <hxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.com>:

> Bruce:
>
> Whoops, sorry about the typo on the wine. Before
> visiting the winery I had no idea that Korbel produced
> regular wines, or the finer champagnes. It's not Louis
> Roderer, but I still prefer it to Dom.
>
> As for Angie, I found out she sent an email to another
> of the investigators with an similar report of your
> interaction....although she is starting to appear
> enthralled by your attention, like a school girl with
> a crush. You must be so sweet. You're assessment may
> be correct - that she really doesn't know anything of
> the seedier side of the Marzano's business practices.
>
> Unfortunately, I have not personally received any
> contact from Dale since his disappearence. I don't
> know why he wouldn't turn to you in his time of need,
> unless he felt embarressed about his financial
> situation. That the business you both created
> together continued to prosper without him, and his own
> attempt, despite his webdesigning abilities, failed.
> Then after the fact, maybe he still associates you
> with the Marzanos since you have done so much work for
> their companies? Speaking of which, your site still
> has their name in your client profile (and this makes
> it seem like right now they are your only client since
> it has been listed as the site-of-the-month for over 6
> weeks now).
>
> There is something in Dale's online diary that has
> been a little troubling. He relates after a physical
> encounter with the boys, you did not seem phased
> seeing him with very visible bruises on his face.
> [Feb 3: Today is Monday. Bruce stopped by my office in
> Camden today. He said he was "just in the area" but
> that's quite a drive from his offices in the City. I'm
> pretty sure my bruises were pretty apparent to him but
> he didn't say anything about them. Come to think of
> it, he didn't even seem surprised by them when he
> first saw me.]
> Perhaps you can recall that visit? What you actually
> saw that day at his office? Speaking of which, have
> you gone back there lately? Maybe there would be some
> clue about Dale's whereabouts or future plans.
>
> I may not be around very much this week. I am
> volunteering at a camp for kids with Diabetes (it is
> Spring Break for the local school district) but hope
> to be able to check my email if a phone line is
> available. Good luck on your next trip to see Angie -
> maybe she does know something but is just a very good
> actress. Or if not, maybe she can sneak a look at the
> "other" books for you (us).
>
> Peace.
> Heather
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From Passion @ collectivedetective
Subject: Contact: Letter from Bruce

I guess I'm the person Bruce referenced in his other letter. Here's my letter to him (the first one I sent to him) and then his reply after that. I'm going to give his letter some thought and make a response later today (Tuesday.)

Greetings, Bruce,

I'm one of the arm-chair detectives who has been following the strange case of what happened to Dale. I haven't felt the need to write to you up until this point. Perhaps because I'm dealing with another person who is asking many of the same questions you are asking of your friend, Dale, I see some things that might not be obvious to you. My friend is wondering why his friends don't support him. This is something I've run into over and over again during my "life online" over the past dozen or so years.

So, when I read your rhetorical questions about why Dale was shutting you out I thought I'd write and offer my take on this situation.

You wrote of how you'd done so much for Dale. How you would never have turned to the Marzanos for help. How you took responsibility for him getting out of the hospital and then went so far as to see that he was committed.

Apart from your questions, there's also the issue that at one point you met with Dale after he'd had his "encounter" with "the boys" and you didn't make a comment on his condition.

Could it be that the attitude you showed in your letter about never having been, shall we say, dumb enough to go to a loan shark came out in your relationship with Dale? Could your not having made any comment about his bruises have caused Dale to doubt that your concern for him as authentic. Could it be that his growing paranoia (you know, even paranoids can have people trying to get them) could have made him hyper-aware of any such instances of what to him was lack of caring?

It's an old saying, and I've taken it into account in writing this, but remember that when you are pointing a finger at someone there are four pointing back at you.

Is there something in your own actions that has caused your close friend to mistrust you? Perhaps there's something we don't know about your friendship that could shed some light on this.

Here is something else to think about. Those of us "out here" are far safer than a person who is "up close." The internet affords a great buffer to people and the cloak of anonymity. Dale can reach out to us and in a way have more security than turning to a friend who thinks he's crazy enough to be institutionalized. He can simply delete the email from those that think he's gone off the deep end and reach out to those who see that he is in a very unique situation and offer unconditional help.

Perhaps it is easier for Dale to pour his heart out and express his emotions, fears, etc. to an anonymous name in an email than to a close friend. Especially when that close friend had recently committed him.

I probably shouldn't write these things late at night because any "governor" I have on my emotions is set to "off" and I tend to tell it like is from my point of view.

I would very much like to see Dale return to being able to trust you. But I think for that to happen you need to look inside and see if there isn't something you have done or said to cause the mistrust.

Just an anonymous voice in the night,

Sandra

The response:

Sandra:

I'll say this -- unlike some of your predecessors, you make some interesting points. My take on these events is not the same as yours; however, as you do accurately state, it doesn't perhaps matter which of us is right or wrong -- it matters how Dale perceives the same events.

I remember quite well the incident you refer to. I was in Philadelphia
on business one morning in late January or early February -- it can't have
been more than a couple of weeks before the accident -- and stopped in
to see Dale on my way back to New York. Dale was a mess -- he looked
like he had slept in the same rumpled clothes for a couple of days, not
to mention the bruises on his face and hands. But he greeted me like it
was a sunny day in Mister Rogers neighborhood, and I didn't know quite
what to do. I kept waiting for him to bring up what had happened so
that I could find out what was going on. But he kept talking about
everything else under the sun -- the weather, the 76ers, the progress he was making on the town web site. He seemed determined to ignore the subject, and I'm afraid I took my cue from him. I tried to draw him out by making a spontaneous pitch for him to come back to our old firm, but he turned the idea aside. Finally, there didn't seem any way to bring it up that wouldn't risk insulting him, so I left. I called Diana later that day when I got back to the city, but she also didn't seem to have a clue about what was really going on -- only that Dale was depressed and distant.

As the truth has slowly been revealed, you are probably correct that I have blamed Dale for not opening up to us before these tragic events occurred. But could I have done more, forced him to reveal his secrets --
perhaps. Would that have changed the course of fate? Unfortunately, we
will never know that for sure -- though I already mourn Diana and Meaghan's deaths every day, and would not happily imagine that my own
actions contributed to this tragedy.

However, whatever you may think of my actions before the accident,
please make no mistake -- Dale's actions after the accident left me no
choice but to force him to get help. He ignored my calls and mails day
after day. Unfortunately, I was busily getting plenty of calls from other
citizens of Aglaura about his behavior -- a shopkeeper he assaulted
trying to physically wrest items she owned from her possession, the Mayor and Town Attorney reporting on his increasingly erratic behavior in
public meetings. And then there was his 'professional demeanor'. Have you seen the current state of the Synthasia website? Dale was airing his
grief for the world to see, in a fashion that would have scared any potential client or investor immediately away. He was doing his personal and professional reputation irreparable harm, and acting in a manner that suggested he might do harm to himself. Frankly, I think that Dr. Kendra seems to be a valuable lifeline for Dale, one he would not have if not for me. Again, though, Dale obviously sees me as a villain for doing so -- and it sounds from your tone that you 'investigators' must encourage that sentiment. I ask you to put yourself in my position, and realize all that happened during the second part of February, before you judge me.

Hopefully the day will come when I can have this same discussion with
Dale. Hopefully, those of you who are in touch with him will get him to
stop running, and seek further help. But there it is. Make of it what
you will.

Sincerely,
Bruce Abbott

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From Passion@collectivedetective
Subject: Contact: Email from Bruce 4-16

Quote:
My letter to Bruce with his reply below:

Greetings, Bruce,

Thank you for replying to my concerns and questions regarding Dale. I
think it's safe to say that all of us, those who know him in real life
and through email correspondence, want nothing but the best for him,
with few exceptions.

> I'll say this -- unlike some of your predecessors, you make some
> interesting points.

Thank you. I'm glad you took the questions in the spirit that I
intended - compassion for someone who clearly is going through a traumatic
time in his life.

> I remember quite well the incident you refer to. I was in
> Philadelphia on
> business one morning in late January or early February -- it

Again, thank you for your detailed explanation of what went on during
your encounter with Dale. It sounds as though you were concerned for
him and that to question something that was so obvious would indeed have
upset him. It was probably a very uncomfortable experience for you to
see him going down hill right before your eyes.

From what you've said it sounds as though you've done what
you could to help him. Wouldn't it be a blessing if we did
have hind-sight and could know what our actions would do
before we took them?

> Dale's actions after the accident left me no choice but to force
> him to get help. He ignored my calls and mails day after day.

Not having been there, this is one situation that I have to rely on
what
you say happened. I wonder if you ever though of some type of
"intervention" where a group of friends confront someone with the
reality of what they are doing and through that confrontation force the
person to take responsibility for their actions.

But, that is in the past and like all of us, you did what you thought
was right at the time. As you said, if you feared he would do harm to
himself - and others - you had few choices.

One issue that I disagree with you on is your statement that somehow
those of us "out here" trying to help Dale are somehow encouraging him
to be leery of you. With all that has happened to Dale in the last few
months I think a feeling of "paranoia" isn't all that unusual. After
all, even paranoids can have people "out to get them." Rest assured that
those of us that I know of who are helping him from the "outside" have
nothing but his welfare in mind and are doing everything we can to help
him out of this dilemma.

I completely agree with your comments that Dale will soon stop running
and take the help that is offered him. For now, that is all we can do.

Once again, thank you for writing and for being so open about your
feelings regarding Dale.

When and if you ever feel the need, or would like to share, I'd be
interested in knowing more about Diana. I've read about her on the
Aglaura website and she sounds like a wonderful woman. It's a shame
that she was lost at such a young age. My sympathy to you for losing a
good friend. I pray that she and Meaghan are in a safe and loving place.

Wishing you well.

Sandra

Bruce's reply to my letter:

Dear Sandra:

Thank you for your gracious letter. Please feel free to correspond with
me whenever the mood strikes you -- if there are other questions or
concerns you have, I will try to answer them. I am really not usually
man with deep, dark secrets. Unfortunately, it now appears that I have
acquired one -- if there is one thing that has clearly come out of all
the events of the last two months, it seems indisputable that at the
very least, Sal and Marco Marzano are 'mobbed up'. This means that my
firm's reputation and my own are potentially at risk by acquaintance, or at
the very least that some of the money they paid me for professional
services may have been dirty. I am going to have to find a way to
extricate myself from this relationship as quickly as possible -- yet I
fear that if I attempt to do anything drastic, I could wind up on their
bad
side like Dale.

I'm really not used to this sort of situation. Dale's the risk taker,
the one
who grabs for the brass ring (although sometimes like this ill-fated
loan he falls on his face). He's the one that has adventures, the
incurable
romantic who dreams of writing his best seller and leaving advertising
behind. I'm the businessman, the voice of reason. It's why we were so
good together as a creative team -- he had the vision, I'd keep him
grounded. I'm not comfortable cast in this role.

But like it or not, the same events that have brought disaster for Dale
have bought trouble for me as well. Probably you think me selfish for
even mentioning my own concerns, and don't get me wrong -- I know that
they pale beside what has happened to Dale. But though I've done
everything in my power to help Dale thru this, he has turned my help aside.
And while you and a few other 'investigators' appear able to hear both
sides of the story, many others appear intent on keeping Dale alienated
from me. Dr. Kendra has told me she has received a number of emails from
you outsiders encouraging her to keep vital information about Dale's
health and safety from me. And she says Dale himself is angry at me for
having him committed. Ironically, of course, if I hadn't
done so, he wouldn't have even Dr. Kendra to confide in, and would be
even more alienated and alone. So, although it's sensible to say that
everything will work out in the long run, it's all too easy to feel like
I'm being painted as a villain, when my hopes for Dale's recovery are
exactly the same as yours.

You mentioned Diana at the close of your letter -- and she and Meaghan
are the true victims of all this. She was a wonderful woman, and a dear
friend all the years I knew her. And Dale kept her in the dark about
what he had done, and the danger she was in as the result of his actions.
For that reason alone, I'd like to be able to believe in all this
'wish' nonsense -- because two bright shining lights were snuffed out of
this universe long before their time had come. But all of the facts appear
to state otherwise. It's another drawback to being the sane, sensible
one - you recognize that if a story can't be supported by the facts,
it's just a fairy tale . . .

Sincerely,
Bruce Abbott


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EMAIL from Bruce - He is worried about Marzano business

Heather:

And a happy Easter to you too. I am a not quite lapsed Catholic, so I imagine I will make an appearance at Mass tomorrow morning. Have a chocolate bunny on me.

Ah, if only the rest of this note could be so jovial. My second evening
with Ms. Shapiro was very pleasant socially, but very disturbing when the conversation turned to her other family members. Things appear much worse than you or I might have imagined. According to Angie (and some emails that she has just tonight forwarded to me), Sal and Marco have somehow blundered into the midst of some FBI investigation into Dale, of all people. I just scanned these mails quickly in the last hour or so, and I'm not sure I can completely make sense of all they are claiming. But it
looks like they may have their own copy of that threatening email that Sal sent to Dale, and some sort of surveillance tape of the brothers nosing around Dale's house a couple of weeks ago -- right around the time of the fire. I can't tell if they're claiming it's arson -- that seems stupid, even for Sal. If you're trying to collect money from somebody, leaving him homeless is not going to help him come up with the cash.

So what I've decided to do is try to exert whatever goodwill I've built up over
the years through my legitimate work for Don Marzano, Angie's uncle. I'm going to go in to see Don M. with Angie, whenever she can arrange it, and we will tell him what we know. I realize that it's probably likely now that Don is actually 'the Don', and involved in criminal enterprises I can't even imagine (and don't frankly want to). But he has never been anything but businesslike with me in over three years of working together, and is truly a man whose intelligence I have always respected. I can't believe that he will want to have Sal and Marco put his enterprises in any further jeopardy with their stupid blundering. I don't want to kid you -- if I've
misread this situation, I could be putting myself in real jeopardy. I have to trust that my fledgling relationship with Angie, and my long years with Dale, can allow me to approach this subject as a family friend who doesn't want to see either Angie or Dale hurt.

As to the question of the money, I already mentioned that same thing to
Angie, once I realized how out of hand this situation has become. I still
can't believe Dale allowed himself to get into this position (and it frankly
disturbs me that Dale must have known about the Marzano's criminal proclivities before approaching them. In the old days when we worked together on these accounts, we always joked about the family being 'connected' -- with Sal's wardrobe of wifebeaters and doublebreasted suits, he was an easy target. Since Dale was the one who originally signed them up with Anonymous Fame, it makes me wonder whether he always knew). I have written to Dale's insurance company, Collective Protective, in the past few days to try and find out how close they are to paying out the settlement. I would hope to convince Dale to use whatever portion of those proceeds are needed to satisfy his debt -- though frankly, I still have no idea how large that debt is now, since I don't think the interest rates for loansharks are anything like the current low bank rates.

Of course, to convince Dale of this, he has to start speaking to me again, and has to be honest about his situation. It's also likely that in order to collect the payout, he (or I, thru the power of attorney) is going to have to
sign off on the deaths of Diana and Meaghan. If he's still babbling about accidents that didn't happen, and wishes from six-fingered fortunetellers, maybe they won't even pay the claim. You almost certainly have had more contact with Dale in recent weeks than I. What can you 'investigators' do, if anything, to help in this matter?

Bruce

P.S. -- Glad to hear you're interested enough in me to be a little jealous of my dates with Ms. Shapiro; remember, should you find yourself in or
around the Big Apple, I would be more than pleased to show you the same hospitality.
With all you investigators mailing all of us, I guess it's likely that Angie is writing to some of you (maybe even you, Heather)about our dates. I certainly hope I come off sounding like a gentleman.


Quoting hxxxxxxx <hxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.com>:

> Hi Bruce,
>
> Yes, I saw your reply to Passion. I'm not sure if I
> would have responded in a similar fashion, but I think
> men & women have different emotional responses to
> stress.
>
> What kind of a contract do you have with Sons of Don
> construction? That company seems more like a front
> for illicit business than the restaurant. From what
> I've seen of the communications from the webmaster
> (Angie), I don't think she has a clue to any illegal
> activity.
>
> Am I jealous of Angie? A little - she gets to see you
> and talk to you. That kind of communication is much
> more intimate than just our emails.
>
> Camp was great fun. I gain so much from those kids. If
> I ever was asked "who is your hero" on any application
> or questionaire, "kids living with diabetes" would be
> my response. We had snow the first night (woke up to
> over 6" all over the place - made snowmen, angels, and
> it was all gone by the late afternoon), we climbed a
> mountain, we rode in canoes, and we spent hours going
> up (and down) a portable rock wall. Wow! Can't wait
> until next year.
>
> Did you get any more information from Angie about the
> business practice of the Marzanos? Any way to get
> them off of Dale's tail? That would give him one less
> thing to worry about. Don't you still have Power of
> Attorney? When does the insurance settlement get
> paid? Would that be enough money to pay off the loan
> sharks?
>
> Hope you have a nice weekend. Happy Easter (if you
> celebrate it).
>
> Heather
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questions about Bruce

Kona, Do you know if Bruce or Dale ever identified the bodies of Diana or Meeghan? Plus does Bruce still have power of attorney if Dale has been released? It dosen't seem to me that he should have, thus getting access to insurance information should not be allowed.

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Re: questions about Bruce

butterflyer22 wrote:
Kona, Do you know if Bruce or Dale ever identified the bodies of Diana or Meeghan? Plus does Bruce still have power of attorney if Dale has been released? It dosen't seem to me that he should have, thus getting access to insurance information should not be allowed.


Not Kona, but what the hey.
According to Doc. Kendra (before she went loopy on us again) the bodies were not identified. Bit too charred for that first of all, secondly because it was the Sprague family car and because Dale was found close to the accident place, they just assumed that it was Diana and Meaghan.

Power of Attorney still seems to be valid for some reason, as for the reason why, unknown. I know that Doc Kendra is being quizzed about this in a roundabout way.

Guess we need to pester lawdog about this as our resident lawyer.

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Quote:
Of course, to convince Dale of this, he has to start speaking to me again, and has to be honest about his situation. It's also likely that in order to collect the payout, he (or I, thru the power of attorney) is going to have to sign off on the deaths of Diana and Meaghan. If he's still babbling about accidents that didn't happen, and wishes from six-fingered fortunetellers, maybe they won't even pay the claim. You almost certainly have had more contact with Dale in recent weeks than I. What can you 'investigators' do, if anything, to help in this matter?

Bruce


Sounds like he still has POA (guess there was no time limit set).
And the death certificates have NOT been signed yet.

Maybe we need to go to Sheriff Dawn or back to Greatwater General to find out more info on that.
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From Passion@collectivedetective
Subject: Contact: Another letter from Bruce

My letter on top, his reply below:

> Greeting, Bruce,
>
> I hope you are having a Happy Easter.
>
> Thank you for the invitation to correspond with you whenever the mood
> moves me. I have quite a few questions, but I don't like to ask ones
> that would make you feel uncomfortable - so I will try to tread
> lightly on any topic that might be a bit delicate.
>
> You made a most interesting comment at the end of your last
> letter: ". . . you recognize that if a story can't be supported by the
> facts, it's just a fairy tale." I found this interesting on many
> levels - and a bit ironic on this Holy Day.
>
> But what your comment really sparked in me was a question about Dale -

> both of our primary concern. Since you've known him for so long, I was

> wondering if he had ever shown any previous interest in the esoteric?
> I know that he expressed a desire to write - so I was wondering what
> those topics might have been. Did he lean toward writing
> techno-thrillers, moody first person novels of deep introspection,
> sci-fi or fantasy? I believe that knowing some of what genre he wrote
> in would be of interest and could help shed some light on what he is
> going through.
>
> You also mentioned "da boys" as I call them - Sal
> and Marco. It looks like you've put yourself right in
> the middle of things. All I can say is - watch your back.
> You said you wanted to extricate yourself from the
> situation as soon as possible. First, can't you just take
> down the link on your website? Second, it seems you're
> going in the exact opposite direction by asking for a
> meeting with "The Don" (and I agree with your classifying
> him in this manner.) I get the feeling you're torn between
> wanting to safe guard yourself and your company and
> wanting to find a way to get Dale out of his "situation"
> with Don and da boys.
>
> Looks like you've "cast" yourself in the role of adventurer - but then

> we only grow through spreading out wings and trying new things. Just
> be cautious and think of all the ramifications of your actions.
>
> I don't mean to harp on the "caution" issue, but with all
> the crazy things that are going on it's hard for me not to
> worry about the people involved.
>
> On to another issue you brought up - Being a very private person
> myself, I can understand why Dale might want to have Dr. Kendra keep
> some of the details he reveals to her private. Having gone through
> therapy a long time ago after a divorce I know the need to have total
> trust in the confidentiality of what I told my therapist. I had to
> feel free to express anything that came up. Don't you think that Dale
> deserves that type of freedom?
>
> Now, if Dr. Kendra thought that Dale was an imminent threat to himself
> or someone else I'm sure that she would contact you immediately.

> Other than that, maybe a first step in healing the breach between you and
> your friend would be to offer him a show of faith and confidence.
> Through all this it's possible that he knows of your desire to be
> informed of all that is going on with him. In Dale's current state of
> mind, whatever that might be, he can only see this as an issue of
> control and lack of trust. A close relationship without trust is
> doomed to failure. This can also be applied to Dale and his not
> trusting you.
>
> I agree, Dale left Diana in the dark about too much that was going on
> with him. But put yourself in his place, as hard as that might be.
> Just for a few moments let's accept that this fairytale, as you
> described it, is real. As Shakespeare said, "There are more things on
> heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamed of in your philosophy." As
> you would have liked Dale to react to circumstances as you, the
> level-headed one would have done, try putting yourself in his place
> and be the dreamer and romantic (small "r") for the moment. What would
> your reaction have been to what he believes has happened to him?
>
> One last thing - would there be any "fact" or proof that would
> convince you of the authenticity of Dale's claims?
>
> Wishing you fantasy-filled moments,
>
> Sandra
>
> PS - I see you've found out my Internet nick - Passion. I've been
> called it and Pash for so many years I sometimes think of it as a real
> name. See how easily it is to live in two worlds?
>

Sandra:

I'm not the one who revealed your 'pen name' -- Heather mentioned you by that name in her last mail to me. I've gotten used to the fact that whatever I say to one person will ultimately make the rounds, so I'm no longer surprised by that fact. This probably means that you've likely had a chance to see my most recent email to her. I'll tread lightly on topics you raise that I've discussed with her.

I don't feel that I've 'cast' myself as an adventurer -- but rather that I've been thrust into this role by events. These emails that Angie Shapiro has forwarded to me about a possible FBI investigation of Dale just heightens an already horrible situation. Everything suggests that some of my business associates are criminals -- business associates that Dale designed our original pitch for back in 1999. Associates whose criminal side Dale seems to have been far more aware of, since he was the one who approached him for a 'loan'. An unpaid loan that has caused Sal Marzano to engage in assault and battery, threats, possibly even arson -- and apparently to engage in these acts while agents of the federal government are watching. So hiding under the covers and riding this one out doesn't appear to be an option.

Think it through, Sandra. I've got two choices here -- neither of them of my own making, but that's water under the bridge. I can suddenly sever my business dealings with the Marzanos, making myself appear to be part of theproblem and possibly putting myself on Sal's enemies list. Or I can try to be part of the solution -- letting Don Marzano know what's going on, and hoping that he can get control of his loose cannon sons, and trying to get Dale to do what needs to be done to get the insurance company to sign off on the accident settlement, so that some or all of this money can be used to pay off his debt and end his involvement in this end of the mess. It's not a desirable position to bein, but the other choices all seem worse.

And I don't even understand what else is going on here. These FBI mails seem to be indicating that Dale is being somehow investigated as someone who is dealing with terrorists, or has been acting as some kind of undercover informant for the Government and making contact with terrorists -- it's all too unreal.

And still I'm here, trying to help him out any way that I can. Yet now even you have echoed the sentiments I've heard from other 'investigators' -- that somehow I'm supposed to be the one making some sort of effort to 'heal the breach between us'. It's best if I say nothing further on this particular subject, because if I go on, there is no way for me to avoid 'going off' on you. When if ever will Dale be held accountable in your eyes for everything he has done to contribute to the disastrous
events that have engulfed him and his family? Why aren't you all encouraging Dale to realize he can still trust me, when you (unlike Dale) are in a position to objectively review the evidence, and recognize that I haven't made a single decision since this mess began that hasn't had Dale's best interests at heart?

Sincerely,
Bruce Abbott

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From Bruce: Explanation of Power of Attorney

From Passion@collectivedetective

My, the boys were talkative last night. My letter on the top, response
from Bruce below:

> Hi, Bruce,
>
> Here I am - with the mood moving me to write. Smile
>
> I've been thinking about your attempt to reconnect with
> Dale and ways that you could do so. I've been running
> over ideas in my mind and need a bit of information to
> see if it can fit in. I'm wondering, how did you come to
> have Power of Attorney for Dale? I thought perhaps it
> might have come from the two of you being business
> partners - but I've never been in a partnership, I'm only
> familiar with sole proprietorships.
>
> Thanks for the information - if you care to share it. Smile
>
> Sandra
>

Sandra:

The Power of Attorney was executed purely out of desperation. The more Dale continued to tell everyone at the hospital in Aglaura his story of events, the more hospital administration became convinced that he was not in his right mind. Their first thought was to commit Dale directly to a mental health facility. It is my understanding, however, that the Mayor of Aglaura himself (who knows Dale well as a member of a town council) intervened to suggest that Dale would be more likely to come around if allowed to return to familiar surroundings. The hospital still would not release him without someone vouching for his personal safety. I imagine that the Mayor made a political decision to not volunteer himself for that role, although I think the hospital would have accepted it.

Instead, the hospital called me. Dale has no other family on the Eastern
seaboard; after his wife, I was the only other 'family member' listed as
a telephone contact on his insurance policy. They called me immediately after he was admitted, which is what brought me to Greatwater General
in the first place. Over the two days it took for him to gain full consciousness again, I was the face the administrators, nurses, etc., got to know. I assume that is why they turned to me. Once I explained the
situation to Dale, he decided the Power of Attorney was a necessary evil (Obviously, all of you know how desperately he wanted to avoid being hospitalized -- unfortunately, in the end, his behavior became so irregular that there was no longer any question that he was not getting any better at home). It's certainly not a position I relished being put in -- and I surely have gotten nothing but grief since for having put myself on the line. Now, finally, it appears that being in this position may actually enable me to help Dale pay off the Marzanos -- so perhaps in the end, some good will come from the arrangement.

Sincerely,
Bruce Abbott

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> Bruce,
>
> Ate the chocolate bar on Friday (thanks).
>
> Are you saying that the FBI is investigating Dale? Or
> just the Marzanos? Are they looking at you? That
> sounds dangerous to your business. Is there any chance
> that Don Marzano doesn't know what Sal & Marco (and
> Frank?) are doing? I hope Angie can help you get the
> answers.
>
> Speaking of Angie, are you just using her to get close
> to the family, or are you developing a real fondness
> for her? I'm not communicating with her myself, but I
> have finally found some of the emails she has sent to
> other investigators. She really likes you. She has
> mentioned that you are a smart dresser, and something
> about you "smell nice". (Sorry, that just brings a
> cute smile to my face). What cologne do you wear?
> Maybe I shouldn't be telling you what she is emailing
> to others. It's kind of like passing notes in high
> school.
>
> Okay, back to the important stuff. I did send Dale an
> email, that even if he won't agree to talk to you
> face-to-face, asking him to at least answer your
> emails. I hope it helps. There has been some
> discussion about your POA and if you can still help
> him out financially. Can Dale revoke your POA? I
> thought it was activated when he was in the coma for
> you to make medical decisions; will it also allow you
> to deal with financial issues?
>
> Speaking of medical issues - there was something that
> bugged me from last month. Dale reported going back
> to the hospital and found that someone else had
> already collected his personal effects (there was some
> items in his pockets that were left there after his
> discharge). We've never found out who, how, or why.
> Do you have any ideas?
>
> You make it sound like the medical examiner hasn't
> signed off on the death certificates for Diana and
> Meaghan. Why would Dale have to "agree" to anything.
> That is just the ME's job, has nothing to do with
> next-of-kin. Then the information goes to the
> insurance company (*they* may want to investigate, if
> they are worried about fraud). Again, Dale does not
> have to agree to anything. Now, for burial, that is
> something Dale has to deal with (or Diana's parents if
> Dale is declared mentally unavailable). Does that
> mean their remains are still at the morgue. Such a sad
> situation.
>
> Keep me posted. Sounds like you are hitting some
> stressfull times. Wish I could be there to give you a
> shoulder massage.
>
> Peace,
> Heather

Heather:

(Caption from a holiday themed email card I received over the weekend from a friend -- card shows two chocolate bunnies, one of whom has been partially consumed from the bottom up, the other from the top down. Bunny #1 -- "My butt hurts" Bunny #2 - "What?". I feel a lot like Bunny #1.)

Supposedly, from these emails, the FBI claims that they are watching Dale as part of some investigation into terrorism -- the Marzanos just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, and wound up on tape, in e-mails, etc.
It's my guess (my hope?) that "Don" Don doesn't know how Sal and Marco have been conducting the family business. Look, I've known the man for three years, and he never once did anything around me to suggest he was anything but a legitimate businessman.

Hey, you can bet I'm scared. Probably like you, everything I 'know' about organized crime comes from watching the Godfather, GoodFellas, etc. Well, Don Marzano has always acted like Tom the Robert Duvall character in the Godfather, the attorney whose hands never get involved in the dirty work, while Sal -- well, he's Joe Pesci. In the movies, when the crazy guy goes too far, the family always takes care of him to protect themselves. At the same time, they always side with 'family' against people outside the family. By going in together with Angie, I'm hoping to make it seem more like one side of the family against the other. Of course, maybe real life is nothing like the movies, in which case I'm shooting blind . . .

Now, don't get me wrong; I also want to make sure that none of this mess rebounds on Angie, either. THough my initial motives for contacting her may not have been entirely pure, the pleasure of her company has definitely been a rare bright spot in the last couple of weeks. Is it something that could last over the long haul? Who can say for sure? The biggest thing working against a relationship is the fact that I'm looking to reduce and gradually eliminate my connection to the Marzano family, not marry into it. But, yes, there's genuine fondness on my part, and it seems to be reciprocated on hers.

As to some of your other questions, you could put what I personally know about POAs and insurance settlements in a scotch glass, and still have plenty of room for ice. I have no idea what the limits of my POA are, or if it even remains in effect. As it is, the only reason that I care about even maintaining the framework of the relationship is that its existence might force Dale to have to talk to me and figure out what he wants to do about all this. Call me crazy, but I just don't see running as a permanent solution. The only contact that I ever had with Dale's insurance company was a phone call where the representative seemed to be saying that Dale was contesting the facts of the accident report, and that this could hold up the final determination of the claim. Maybe that's no longer true. There's so much that I don't really know for sure while Dale stays out of touch. I don't want to make decisions without Dale -- far from it. But until he starts to seem like he actually wants to figure out a way out of this mess, somebody has got to see what options are available before we run out of choices altogether.

I imagine that, like some of these other 'investigators', you may find my approach to be not sufficiently heroic -- and OK, maybe it's not. If only they had to walk a mile in my shoes. There's a very thin line between brave and foolish here, and if I wind up crossing that line, I risk both my livelihood and my life. I want to help my friend get out of this mess, but bringing down the mob single-handedly doesn't seem the most likely way of doing that.

I probably didn't answer everything you asked -- sorry. I'll keep you posted if things develop further, or if I hear from Dale.
Bruce

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Bruce has received the warning (and another date with Angie)

> Bruce.
> You are in danger! Let me explain.
> Dale previously set up his email to archive for us to
> read. Today he got one that looked like another scam
> email, except we recognized the blindmailerproxy on
> the return (this was the same method of contact used
> by the Marzanos when they first started sending him
> threatening email last month). Someone figured out to
> use spammimic for the decode:
> http://www.spammicmic.com
>
> Here is the original email and the solve.
>
(inserted Dale's spam email)
>
> Turns into this:
>
> keep running bastard, maybe we'll start with your
> friends instead
>
> (...Presumably from the Marzano Boys)
>
> You may be a target. I'm very worried that they will
> seek you out. Please, reconsider your meeting with
> Don Marzano. He was seen in Aglaura meeting with the
> Mayor and the Lawyer just the other week. I think
> that maybe Don is part of the "business". Somehow,
> Sons of Don Construction was awarded the contract to
> build the new library, and during the first press
> conference (on telephone) a newspaper reported did ask
> about this relationship. Let me find the transcripted
> portion related to this for you:
>
(inserted relevent transcript from the online press conference that started with the question from the radio reporter)
>
> So, put two and two together and you get something
> that really stinks. Stay away from Empty Threats.
> Dale hasn't acknowledged my email to him to please
> contact you...have you heard from him? He appears to
> be moving around and probably using Internet Cafes.
> Did he have any favorite haunts to which he might
> return?
>
> Please, I have grown fond of you, be careful.
>
> Peace, Heather

Heather:

Thanks for the warning. Some fellow named Stephen Faust sent me the same warning, though not the bizarre form it was attached to. If anybody has ever sent me a warning like this, I'd never see it -- I don't think a letter like this would ever get past the spam protection my programmers put on our corporate email system. You'd be amazed (well, maybe you wouldn't -- I don't remember if I know what you do for a living) how many unasked for solicitations you get as a small business. It can cripple an operation, so you have to make sure they never get in the door. If this came through Dale' email, I would have thought he would have had something similar.

You investigators -- it's weird. On the one hand, when you hear that people are poring over spam mails to Dale to find hidden messages, it certainly brings to mind the phrase "Get a life". But then you find something in there, and instead you wind up thinking 'well they're strange, but they certainly are smart'. I certainly consider myself an intelligent man, but I think I'd be floundering for air trying to compete with you folks.

If this mail is recent, it is disturbing news. Angie wrote me that she had spoken to Sal and told him that his activities with Dale were attracting attention. If they're still going after him, maybe they really won't stop until they either have their money, or Dale (or perhaps us, his friends, if this is to be believed) are dead.

That meeting with the Don won't happen til next week at the earliest -- if this keeps up, maybe it shouldn't happen at all . . . D*** it. If I reveal what I know, I put myself in the line of fire; if I don't, it looks like the risks to Dale and others remain very real. Fire -- frying pan? Rock -- hard place? Lots of lovely choices to contemplate tomorrow if it's nice enough for Angie and I to take the boat out. I wish I could just sail off and not look back -- but I don't think that's really an option, either. These things don't just peter out without a climax.

Take care, Heather dear. You're a ray of sunshine to me; unfortunately, you must be beginning to feel that writing to me is like corresponding with
one of those prison inmates -- a relationship that can bring you nothing but trouble. I had a normal life, once. Hopefully, one day, it will be so again.

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Bruce's email exchange with Passion is getting heated

From Passion@collectivedetective
Subject: Contact: Further Bruce mail

First a letter I sent Bruce followed by his reply and then my reply
after that.

Greetings, Bruce,

Yes, I do see some of the mail that you've written, but to
be honest, some of the things aren't of interest to me so
I scan them for comments and exchanges that have to
do with the heart of this matter - what to do about Dale.

Regarding if you were cast or thrust into the role of adventurer,
I believe that we bring to ourselves what happens in our own lives. So,
perhaps you can't see it, but it's obvious that you are finding more
and more ways to engrain yourself in this situation. Nothing wrong with
that - just a neutral observation that in life we tend to bring things
into our lives on our own and not by others doings. Perhaps there's a
spark of jealousy for the "dreamer/adventurer" life that Dale appears to
have had.

Bruce, do you think that this Angie (that's Don's neice, right? - I get
confused with so many people in all of this) might have over-reacted to
this possible FBI investigation. The idea that Dale was working with
the FBI regarding terrorists or something like that sounds a bit
hysterical to me. Is it possible that you are escalating this?

I'm really confused. You began talking about Dale as if he were
innocent of knowing what the Marzano business was all about and not you're to
the point where you think that he actually knew what they were involved
in? How did you make that leap? You know Dale far better than any of us
- can you honestly say that you think Dale would bring this "criminal"
element to your doorstep?

Why in the world would Dale have brought in the Marzanos if he intended
to borrow money from them? Seems to me it's more likely he made a "slip
of the tongue" about a final situation and The Don picked up on that.
Or maybe "they" were the engineers of his financial problems so they
could move in and have Dale
beholding to him?

Once again, I think you are escalating this issue. You have
a legitimate reason to break off your business association
with the Marzanos. You don't have Dale around to do the technical
things for the website. You could easily write up guidelines for how they
could update their website - or even hire a webmaster to do it for them.
It's not that difficult to do - I do it every day (I have over 80
websites so I know
what it takes.)

Going to Marzano is like "bearding the Don in his den" to
paraphrase an adage. These men are criminals and don't deserve to be
paid off with the money that came from this tragedy. How by giving in to
these thugs are you not lowering yourself to their level? Do we payoff
the tyrrant and look the other way? What about another option - taking
what you know and going to the authorities?

Shakespeare said it, and I'll paraphrase again: I think he doth protest
too much.

You can "go off on me" if you like. I'm a big girl and can handle
myself in most arguements.

Your putting the blame on Dale for the breach in your relationship is
just one more example. Next thing we know you'll be showing up in a hair
shirt and flogging yourself. Bruce, you have been the one who has been
asking us to help you bridge the gap between you and Dale. Now all of a
sudden you want to "go off on me" because we offer you advice and help
in getting in touch with Dale.

Dale is paying for what happened happened to him. He's lost his wife,
child, business - his whole life is gone. Of course there are those of
us who hold him responsible for what has happened. But he is also
clearly walking a fine line between sanity and a world none of us can
comprehend.

Bruce, to me trust is the basis of all relationships and once you lose
that, you've lost most everythying. It's not up to "us" to bridge that
gap between you and Dale. It's up to you to rebuild that bridge. I, and
others, will do what we can to help Dale see that you're sincere - but
we need something to work with and I don't think that taking the money
from the death of Meaghan and Diana and giving it to some thugs is the
way to prove your friendship.

Something is clearly bothering you I believe it's being transfered to
Dale. Only you can tell us what that is - once you figure it out for
yourself.

Strong discussions are good. I know they help me grow and evaluate why
I myself have such strong reactions. Which I have and will continue to
do.

Wishing you well,

Sandra

The reply from Bruce:

Sandra:

I think that you're the one who is protesting too much. I have 'a
legitimate reason to break off my connection' with the Marzanos? What I
have, madam, is an existing, legally enforceable contract with over a year
left to run on it. While I may miss Dale's creative spark, surely you
don't imagine that he was the only designer employed by the firm?
Anonymous Fame still possesses all the necessary technical capabilities to
perform the jobs it was hired to do. So unless you're suggesting that I
inform them that I can't work with them anymore
because it's been revealed to me that they're criminals, I'm missing
what that legitimate reason might be. And how, pray tell, would you write
that one up in a memo that wouldn't risk you being cast as a loose end
to be 'taken care of'? Do I want as little to do with them
professionally as possible until that contract is up? You bet your bottom dollar.
Do I think it would be a wise decision to make that clear to them in
advance? I'm guessing that for all the 80 websites you talk about
managing, this isn't an issue that you have personal experience with.

So let's move on to your second protest -- that paying Dale's debt off
to the Marzanos would somehow be 'morally' wrong because they're
'criminals'. That would be an excellent argument for why one shouldn't have
borrowed money from them in the first place, wouldn't it? Unfortunately,
Dale doesn't seem to have paid attention to that one. Nor does he seem
to have decided to deal with his debt by taking the matter to the
authorities himself. As long as the debt stays unpaid, there seems to me to
be a very real chance that his life remains in
danger. So if Dale's not going to use the law, then his only way out is
to pay them off, or to keep running for the rest of his life.

Take the high moral road if you like, Sandra, from your nice safe
position on the sidelines. If Dale, who started this mess by borrowing the
money in the first place, isn't inclined to go to the police for
protection, I'm not inclined to paint the target on myself and do it for him.
SOrry if you don't find that sufficiently heroic. Up until a couple of
weeks ago, the only things I knew about organized crime were from the
same movies and books we all know about. And in those movies, even when
the 'bad guys' are safely behind bars, when it comes time to take their
revenge on those who wronged them, they don't seem to have any trouble
finding those folks and having other 'associates' kill
them, do they?

You don't like my choice of methods? Fine. Like you say, we're all
adults -- criticize away. But I sit here trying to navigate my way through
a nightmare, that for all your high-minded philosophy about 'bringing
to ourselves what happens in our lives' I have had damn little or
nothing to do with creating. When the nightmare ends, I want to have helped
my friend -- but I also want to come out of this with my health, my
company, and my professional reputation still intact. Sorry if I don't
think that taking a stick, and jabbing it in the eye of the dangerous beast
that threatens both of us, is the best way to do that. Truth to tell,
I'd be pretty amazed if you walked the walk like you talk the talk if
you were in really in my shoes.

Bruce

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Passion talks to Bruce about using the POA and Insurance $

Passion@collectivedetective


My note to Bruce:

> Greeting, Bruce,
>
> Thank you for the explanation of the Power of Attorney.
>
> About your last line - that having it might do some good.
> Are you sure? Don't you think that Dale deserves atleast
> some input to what is done with the insurance money?
>
> Also, was there a policy on the house?
>
> Cordially,
>
> Sandra

His reply:

Sandra:

Dale can have all the input he likes. I have no intention of spending
one cent of his money within his consent; indeed, I'd be surprised if
there will even BE a settlement until Dale acknowledges in some way that
he accepts the findings of the accident report and his indicated role
in the fatal crash. Of course, to have that input, he would actually
have to speak to me -- and justify for the first time after all these
weeks why he should have the right to feel betrayed, when it's his actions
that have put us all between a rock and a hard place.

Again, though, your misplaced self-righteousness would almost amuse me,
if this wasn't such a grim business. If Dale had given even a modicum
of thought to the question of how he was going to pay back this loan
before he decided to borrow money 'off the books', we wouldn't be needing
to have this discussion in the first place, would we?

As to coverage on his home, I would have thought so a year ago -- but
who knows if he would have maintained the payments on such coverage once
his business started to fail. Or if he had the house insured for its
current market value, or just kept liability protection on it (for people
falling on the sidewalk, etc.). Finally, even if he has insurance, has
he even bothered to file a claim? I'm afraid Dale is probably a better
source of answers than I.

Bruce


My reply to Bruce's letter: (If we keep this discussion going I'm going
to work it into another letter so I don't have two letter chains going
on.)

Bruce,

A reply I should have expected. Take the focus off of Dale and place it
on yourself.

But thanks for the attempt to answer my question.

Sandra
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Bruce is trusting us to protect Dale

> Dearest Bruce,
>
> I sure hope that you are still okay and managed to
> stay away and out of sight of the Marzanos this
> weekend. I've come to know Dr. Faust pretty well. He's
> a very intelligent professor in parapsychology and the
> paranormal. Please reconsider your plan to meet with
> the Marzanos next week.
>
> I can very well relate to all the spam that shows up
> when your email address is on the internet - I'm the
> website "administrator" for my state professional
> organization. I'm also tired of all the offers to view
> nasty x-rated pictures of near teens, or the
> URGENT/CONFIDENTIAL message offering to share in
> millions of $US after a trip to Nigeria. I've taken
> advantage of the yahoo spam filter but some crap still
> gets through.
>
> Again, Dale hasn't responded to my query about you;
> has he answered your emails yet? However, just a few
> days ago he did send out a couple of notes to some of
> the other investigators that explained how Sal was
> able to create that spam email (a trick Dale showed
> him last year or something). Guess they used this
> communication method when making their money deal. Now
> he said he has disabled the email autoarchive because
> he thinks that Sal knows we are seeing the emails
> (some investigator must have tried to warn off Sal).
> And Sal did that spam code specifically for us to find
> and solve. I think they are really getting angry.
> Please be careful.
>
> Hope you had a good weekend. I had company in town and
> was up late every night, still had to get up early for
> work, and had way too much champagne at brunch this
> morning (at least it was nice stuff, better be for
> $60+tip for brunch). Did Angie get to go out on your
> boat? Yes, I'm a little sad it wasn't me.
>
> Peace, Heather


Heather:

Good to know about your knowledge of Faust. I am still at present committed to trying to do what I can to defuse this situation -- however, Angie's attempts to get her uncle to sit down and talk with his favorite niece haven't yielded anything so far. Perhaps it is true that he already knows everything that I have to say. Perhaps it's true he doesn't care about how Sal conducts the family's business. I have to hope that's false, though, because as long as he continues on unchecked, the less likely it is that anything good can come of it.

It's nice to know that at least one 'investigator' seems to genuinely care about my well being. Sounds like a wild weekend. Angie and I did get to take Apollo's Mirror out on Saturday afternoon, which was perfect for sailing, but could only stay out for a few hours, because she had to cover a shift at the restaurant for a friend. Right when I dropped her off in the parking lot, who should stroll out of the restaurant to have a smoke but Marco Marzano, Sal's little (and possibly even stupider) brother. I don't know if he recognized me (not that I was doing anything I'm ashamed to have known -- but I'd prefer it if it managed to slip his attention.

And your invitation for a jaunt upon Long Island Sound and points
beyond remains open. Between your lovely photo, and your tales of overimbibing at champagne brunch, I begin to wonder if our cruise might even have a chance to turn a bit naughty -- but that's a thought for when and if the time ever comes. In the meantime, I'll keep you posted. No word from Dale, of course -- but at this point, I'd probably be more surprised if I did hear from him. I still believe matters will work themselves out in time, but until then I have to hope you folks can protect Dale's best interests in my stead.

Bruce

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