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[SOLVESOLVESOLVE]Oct 8th PREPOSITION PUZZLE:usernameguy
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Nuriko
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Re: a swing... and a miss

pikalek wrote:
combining some of the previously posted ideas I did a quick search for "preposition" and "song". It turns out there's a song to the tune of Yankee Doodle:

About, above, across, after,
Against, among, around, at,
Before, behind, beside, between,
Beyond, by, down, during!

Except, for, from, in,
Into, near, of, off, on,
Over, past, through, throughout,
To, toward, under, until, up, with!


UNDERNEATH
WITHOUT
ASIDE
INSIDE
BELOW
BENEATH
BESIDE
ONTO
ALONG
OUTSIDE
OPPOSITE
WITHIN
ABOUT
AMID
ROUND

Are the one that are left.

Tried anagrams with the first letters, came up with jack squat:
boa bow iowa aruba
iowa woo rub ababa

Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:35 am
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Arana
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One other interpretation of "sounds like" I am trying is: somethings that sounds LIKE (that its something that appeals to sounds). Sounds like a radio, sounds like a speaker, sounds like a listener. Not getting anywhere with this really, but the old joke "Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana" made me think of alternative definitions of "like".

I am grabbing at straws here, but aren't we all?

I haven't even been able to come up with a .wav name from this though.
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ElViento
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Work constraints mean I'm late to these puzzles, but I've read the thread and I'll share the thoughts I've had so far on the prepositions.. needless to say, I haven't hit the mark.

"opposites_attract.wav" no go.. I got to thinking this as early on around page 3 IIRC, someone paired off the prepositions and was left with 'opposite' as the odd one out. I plyed about at pairing prepositions that sounded like each other, and I was left with opposite, as well as 'throughout' ... maybe the 'opposites attract' theme could help.

"yankee_doodle; yankee_doodle_dandy" from the preposition song.. no good.

playing around with 'sounds like' and 'preposition' and 'forty won' .. does anyone know the terminology in the senate when you 'fight' and 'win' a 'proposition', like a bill.. I get the feeling we're all reaching pretty hard now. It's gotta be more simple than that, but I hope my thought processes help some!

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Rendon
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Ralen wrote:
As if we weren't stretching it enough already, I did manage to get something somewhat melodious out of Professor Zoom's set of notes. By placing a rest every 7 notes, it comes out to be a nice set of 6 short melodies. The only problem is that the very last set is only 6 notes long, and it ends on a tone that doesn't seem right. This can be remedied by adding a C to the very end. Not only does this make the final pattern fit, C is also the note that corresponds to the value of 7. It's a really long shot, but there seems to be a pattern with 7 cropping up again. Maybe we're supposed to find the missing note or something?

Anyway, here's Professor Zoom's song, with the extra C already added to the end.


So mabey it has to do with a 3 letter pepositions left of the list. For is a good one, but there are others too. I have no idea what to do with the word for.
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krystyn
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The Yankee Doodle version I learned went like this:

Quote:

Around across above about
to for from by on toward
Beneath before behind between
Beyond against throughout

Over down among up
With of except upon
'Til at beside under
Without along near in!


PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:09 pm
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Sep7imus
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(I admire the musical attempts being made, but I fear that the answer may be more direct than that. So, by all means continue them, but I'm sticking with the more obvious ones.)

I was trying to thinkof other ways of describing the preposition list, to see if I could think of anything that SOUNDS LIKE thsoe descriptions. here are some thoguhts to try to find homophones for:

prepostions list
list of prepositions
[all the forty-one/prime preopostions suggestions]
locator words
all locators (allocators doesn't work...)
prepositional

I can't believe this one is taking us so long!
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It seems like we are getting off track. Are we asuming that the "sounds like" means like a song? I hold by the theory that sounds like means literally, the answer sounds like preposition, a certain preposition, a combination of prepositions, etc, or even about the coincidence that they are all locational prepositions. This is (to me) the most important fact about them. And since several of the clips we do know about focus on location (Rani going to Boston, her boyfriend on the orbital platform), I think it will be related to location somehow, and not about music. Go ahead and work on it since it is a possibility, but we can't focus exclusively on music, or first letters, or even my theory about location. We need to look at it from every possible angle.
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Ok, I've been following this for a while, and have posted a few times, but not until now have I actually looked at where the list of prepositions comes from. According to http://ilb.extrasonic.com/index.php/Audio_Clip_Puzzle_Set_4 and the netninja blog, the list of the prepositions is in langshivel.gif. i found this picture on "the hives" page, but when i save it and open it in notepad, i cant find the list. the only thing that seems out of place is at the bottom where it says:
Quote:
Living in a old castle
Playing hide and seek.

Am I looking in the wrong place, or what? Has the image changed? I thought that was part of another puzzle that we solved, so why do i only get the castle line and not the list of prepositions? I have tried refreshing and getting the image again, but it doesnt seem to work.
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l0rd0fm0rgul wrote:
Ok, I've been following this for a while, and have posted a few times, but not until now have I actually looked at where the list of prepositions comes from. According to http://ilb.extrasonic.com/index.php/Audio_Clip_Puzzle_Set_4 and the netninja blog, the list of the prepositions is in langshivel.gif. i found this picture on "the hives" page, but when i save it and open it in notepad, i cant find the list. the only thing that seems out of place is at the bottom where it says:
Quote:
Living in a old castle
Playing hide and seek.

Am I looking in the wrong place, or what? Has the image changed? I thought that was part of another puzzle that we solved, so why do i only get the castle line and not the list of prepositions? I have tried refreshing and getting the image again, but it doesnt seem to work.

You are looking at an old version of the picture.

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l0rd0fm0rgul wrote:
Ok, I've been following this for a while, and have posted a few times, but not until now have I actually looked at where the list of prepositions comes from. According to http://ilb.extrasonic.com/index.php/Audio_Clip_Puzzle_Set_4 and the netninja blog, the list of the prepositions is in langshivel.gif. i found this picture on "the hives" page, but when i save it and open it in notepad, i cant find the list. the only thing that seems out of place is at the bottom where it says:
Quote:
Living in a old castle
Playing hide and seek.

Am I looking in the wrong place, or what? Has the image changed? I thought that was part of another puzzle that we solved, so why do i only get the castle line and not the list of prepositions? I have tried refreshing and getting the image again, but it doesnt seem to work.


langshivel is a funny one, because the "Living in a old castle..." bit, which is from an older puzzle, actually shows up in the non-corrupted version of the image, probably just a slip by the PMs but because it's at the end of the file the image looks normal. You need to look for corrupted versions of the image (you should be able to tell by looking at it), that's where the clues are.

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l0rd0fm0rgul wrote:
Ok, I've been following this for a while, and have posted a few times, but not until now have I actually looked at where the list of prepositions comes from. According to http://ilb.extrasonic.com/index.php/Audio_Clip_Puzzle_Set_4 and the netninja blog, the list of the prepositions is in langshivel.gif. i found this picture on "the hives" page, but when i save it and open it in notepad, i cant find the list. the only thing that seems out of place is at the bottom where it says:
Quote:
Living in a old castle
Playing hide and seek.

Am I looking in the wrong place, or what? Has the image changed? I thought that was part of another puzzle that we solved, so why do i only get the castle line and not the list of prepositions? I have tried refreshing and getting the image again, but it doesnt seem to work.


You have to refresh the image A LOT to get it. It took me a long time to get the image a couple days ago. The corrupted langshivel.gif has only the upper half of the picture, so look for that.

It might be the browser, too. I was never able to get it using Firefox (what I normally use), but I got it with IE.

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a7i20ci7y
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Came up with a list of words with the correct number of syllables that "sound like" preposition using RhymeZone. I'm sorry if someone has already done this, I don't have time to read 30 some pages of posts. Might want to try some of these, and don't forget plural forms of the words.

abolition, acquisition, admonition, ammunition, apparition, bad condition, coalition, combat mission, competition, composition, daffynition, decommission, definition, demolition, deposition, dietitian, disposition, electrician, erudition, exhibition, expedition, exposition, extradition, eye condition, field emission, fondkommission, foreign mission, good condition, heart condition, house physician, imposition, inhibition, inquisition, intermission, intuition, in addition, in commission, in condition, in remission, jazz musician, malnutrition, new edition, obstetrician, opposition, phase transition, politician, precondition, preignition, premonition, prohibition, proposition, recognition, recondition, repetition, reposition, requisition, retransmission, rhetorician, skin condition, stage technician, statistician, superstition, supposition, text edition, trade edition, with ambition

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proxenus
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Please excuse my ignorance, I've been unsuccessfully trying to follow this ARG, but I don't have the free time. Sad

I did a search, and nobody has mentioned this page yet:
http://www.ilovebees.com/preposition.html

[flamesuit on] Smile

edit: doh! nevermind. Embarassed

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keeks
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proxenus wrote:
Please excuse my ignorance, I've been unsuccessfully trying to follow this ARG, but I don't have the free time. Sad

I did a search, and nobody has mentioned this page yet:
http://www.ilovebees.com/preposition.html

[flamesuit on] Smile


That's just the 404 error page. Every time you enter in a URL that doesn't exist on the ILB site, that's the page you'll see.

Try going to http://www.ilovebees.com/randompage.html

Same thing. What we're looking for are pages with single WAV files on them.

*goes back to lurking until she hopefully solves the puzzle*

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Tried something a little different (I think).

Maybe SOUNDS LIKE isn't literal. It could represent a word, like similar.

I broke it down as:
sounds like = similar/same
pre - before
posistion

SO I tried:
same_position_before
similar_position_before

Neither worked, but maybe it will spark an idea for someone else.

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